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11-04-2016, 08:42 PM
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Laelia Catt? unknown cross
This is my first post for an ID although i've lost plenty of tags. I'm particularly fond of this plant: it is a smaller bifoliate with long narrow leaves and small (rupicolous-type) flowers. The sepals are yellow; the lip is lavender purple. Rather like an aurea form of something. I purchased it at the SF Orchid Expo show at least 2 years ago. I thought the vendor was Sunset Valley but Fred Clarke didn't recognize it although he thought the leaves might suggest a brassavola cross. The two photos show (1)the bloom and (2)the relative size as of now. Please excuse its current rattiness- it moved recently along with me. Thanks for any help in identifying my orchid.
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11-04-2016, 09:58 PM
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I would say that this looks like a pure rupicolous Laelia, but the fact that it's bifoliate makes me question that because most rupics I've seen are all unifoliate. The only suggestion I can think of that would make flowers of that colour and a bifoliate plant would be (Guarianthe aurantiaca x Laelia caulescens). Even then, I have strong doubts.
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11-04-2016, 10:21 PM
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Thanks for your reply. Yes, the flower does look rupiculous. Few of these have purple lips- laelia mantiqueirae does. The bifoliate, long narrow leaves are are something else. I'm hoping someone has one of these. Mine wasn't the only one offered.
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11-04-2016, 10:56 PM
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Maybe L. cinnabarina in there? I have an unnamed cross with L. lundii, that looks like this http://orchidcentral.org/Images/Catt...nnabarina).jpg . Yours definitely is not this one, the lip even looks a bit like there might be some L. purpurata in there, but that doesn't explain the bifoliate part. I just went out and looked at my small collection of "rupis" and some - including that unnamed hybrid, L. sanguiloba, and L. mixta have some bifoliate growths. L. mantiqueirae is strongly bifoliate. So looking at your flower, I wonder if it is one of the yellow rupiculous laelias (maybe one of the strongly bifoliate ones) crossed with L. purpurata? There are so many possibilities (and I am far, far from an expert), but it's intriguing. You'll probably never know for sure unless you find one with a tag, but someone who knows a lot more about these than I do might be able to come a lot closer. But if it is mystery to Fred Clarke, I give up... I think he knows more about Catts than just about anybody on the planet.
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11-04-2016, 11:57 PM
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Looking at the lip on this one, my first thought was that it might have Laelia caulescens in its background; I believe that the species carries more than one leaf as well--similar to Laelia pabstii (Soph. pabstii...probably now Cat. pabstii...); if you think it might be a primary hybrid, I'd throw out L. Itabiritensis as a candidate (L. caulescens x L. fournieri)--the shape of the petals and the lip coloration would be about correct I believe. Just my $.02, I love the flower,
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11-05-2016, 03:08 AM
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With that lip, and bifoliate, I think a L. (C.) lundii hybrid is a strong possibility.
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11-05-2016, 07:31 PM
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Appreciate the input. I spent more time trying to suss out this plant. I found this http://www.flickr.com/foto_bytes/6990812484 which shows a laelia tenebrosa var aurea cross that has something of the coloration. Except that, to my knowledge, the "Laelia micranthum" part is bogus. I think I will rely on the orchid community to provide an answer if one is forthcoming.
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11-05-2016, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by kielley
... I spent more time trying to suss out this plant. I found this ...which shows a laelia tenebrosa var aurea cross that has something of the coloration. Except that, to my knowledge, the "Laelia micranthum" part is bogus.
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Most likely meant to refer to Laelia flava var. micrantha, making the cross Laelia (now Cattleya) Teneflava, but such a cross would not be bifoliate. You could get a flower like this in many ways. The bifoliate habit and very slim pseudobulbs are the clues that might lead you somewhere.
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