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01-27-2016, 03:10 PM
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Thank you, camille1585, that was an interesting read. It also made me interested in looking for more small-scale growers or local private sellers in combination with the mass-produced which are easier to find.
Me too, No-Pro-mwa! I will do my best to make it bloom the next year too. Hopefully it will go well.
wintergirl, I just saw that on the tag on the producer's picture, thank you for being observant! The store tag said "wild", as well as Veenplant, but I guess they have misspelled/changed the name when they bought it from the producers.
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01-27-2016, 05:10 PM
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wintergirl, I just saw that on the tag on the producer's picture, thank you for being observant! The store tag said "wild", as well as Veenplant, but I guess they have misspelled/changed the name when they bought it from the producers.
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Here is a page with your orchid which you can translate on site:
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01-27-2016, 05:32 PM
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I saw that, thanks wintergirl! I think that's where Veenplant got it from.
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01-27-2016, 06:54 PM
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I see these on a fairly regular basis in the garden center near where I live. I've never bought one, because so many of them tend to have a terminal spike.
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I started googling "terminal spike" after your post, and it seems like the orchid has one (or a few?) of them. I can see at least two or three coming from the crown. I also think it has a keiki with a flower stem, but no roots.
I still like the orchid, but I am a bit disappointed it will most likely not bloom again. I don't know if an orchid can have several terminal spikes, I will have to read more about this.
Thank you for mentioning this, I will definitely keep it in mind next time I buy an orchid.
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01-28-2016, 06:01 AM
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I started googling "terminal spike" after your post, and it seems like the orchid has one (or a few?) of them. I can see at least two or three coming from the crown. I also think it has a keiki with a flower stem, but no roots.
I still like the orchid, but I am a bit disappointed it will most likely not bloom again. I don't know if an orchid can have several terminal spikes, I will have to read more about this.
Thank you for mentioning this, I will definitely keep it in mind next time I buy an orchid.
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It's not entirely hopeless. Terminal spike means that there won't be any new leaves growing from the crown. The plant will still bloom from parts of the plant which haven't had spikes grow yet. However the plant still has a survival mechanism, and may very well put out a few basal keikis in order to continue growing and blooming.
So it's not the terminal spike per se that makes me hesitant to buy Phals that have them, it's just that space is limited on my orchid shelves, so I'd rather buy 'good' plants that don't take up space for nothing.
If the keiki you are talking about is that leaf like thing growing on the stem of one of the terminal spikes, it's not a keiki. It happens often on terminal spikes that some of the bracts will show hypertrophy, and develop like a leaf. But it's not a keiki.
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01-28-2016, 09:18 AM
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It's not entirely hopeless. Terminal spike means that there won't be any new leaves growing from the crown. The plant will still bloom from parts of the plant which haven't had spikes grow yet. However the plant still has a survival mechanism, and may very well put out a few basal keikis in order to continue growing and blooming.
So it's not the terminal spike per se that makes me hesitant to buy Phals that have them, it's just that space is limited on my orchid shelves, so I'd rather buy 'good' plants that don't take up space for nothing.
If the keiki you are talking about is that leaf like thing growing on the stem of one of the terminal spikes, it's not a keiki. It happens often on terminal spikes that some of the bracts will show hypertrophy, and develop like a leaf. But it's not a keiki.
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Thank you, camille1585, I really appreciate you taking the time to anser.
Does that mean that once an orchid has grown a terminal spike, it can still grow stems from the "side" of the crown, or will it not produce leaves nor new stems?
I am hoping it will produce keikis. Regardless, I will keep it as long it is alive.
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01-28-2016, 09:22 AM
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If you look at a Phal over the years, each new spike generally comes out from the 'base' of the leave which is above and opposite side from the previous spike. As a normal Phal grows and makes leaves, it means that there is continuously new 'stem' from which spikes can grow.
With a terminal spike plant which won't produce new leaves, the plant can keep blooming, as it normally would, from each successive leaf base which hasn't had a spike yet. After that, no new leaves = no more spikes. When a new plant grows from the base of the current plant, it's called a basal keiki, and once large enough it will bloom.
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01-28-2016, 09:32 AM
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If you look at a Phal over the years, each new spike generally comes out from the 'base' of the leave which is above and opposite side from the previous spike. As a normal Phal grows and makes leaves, it means that there is continuously new 'stem' from which spikes can grow.
With a terminal spike plant which won't produce new leaves, the plant can keep blooming, as it normally would, from each successive leaf base which hasn't had a spike yet. After that, no new leaves = no more spikes. When a new plant grows from the base of the current plant, it's called a basal keiki, and once large enough it will bloom.
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Ah, now I understand! Tomorrow I am picking up an orchid book I ordered, and now I feel like I have somewhat a basic understanding. Thank you for your help.
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01-28-2016, 10:07 AM
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Hi,
your plant is really beautiful.
Probably the abundance of the flower stems is the result of chemical manipulation in the growth phase.
The terminal spikes are an unwanted side effect.
But I would not worry too much in fact I think it is interesting to see how the plant will react.
Eventually nature will have the upper hand and will reward you for your care.
I wish you Happy growing
Nicola
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01-28-2016, 10:45 AM
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Hi,
your plant is really beautiful.
Probably the abundance of the flower stems is the result of chemical manipulation in the growth phase.
The terminal spikes are an unwanted side effect.
But I would not worry too much in fact I think it is interesting to see how the plant will react.
Eventually nature will have the upper hand and will reward you for your care.
I wish you Happy growing
Nicola
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Thank you nicola. I think it will be interesting too to se how it develops. First I have some beautiful blooming to look forward to.
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