Paph or Phrag?

[judith_arquette]

I have no clue how to differentiate between Paphs and Phrags. I have a noid bulldog type paph and the color of the bloom is almost identical but the shape of the flower and the leaves are very different (my noid Paph has long, thin, solid green leaves). My husband surprised me with this and I'm trying to figure out if I can just treat it the same as my Paph which seems to be doing ok...
Any input/advice much appreciated

[campchi]

I dont grow either one, so have no clue. It's a healthy plant u got there.

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[Optimist]

This is a Paphiopetalum. It is album, could be a hybrid or a species, but not a complex specie, probably a primary species like "grixam X something" or spiceranum or something. It has a kind of farrianum shape, but I am not an expert. A lot of the difference is in where they are from. Paphs are basically "Asian" and Phrags are mostly "South American." Prags have thin strappy leaves and are often large. Phaps have paddle shaped leaves and often have the mottling. They are lower light. Phrags are higher light. Phrags are high humidity and high water plants (more like bog iris as opposed to German iris). Paphs need to be kept moist but are not as "high water." Generallising is not often useful because phrags are found from the lowlands up to maccu piccu. There is alway a range of environments.

When chosing a phrag, make sure it can deal with your lighting levels. Phrags are more like wild outdoors plants and really, some will die in the wrong lighting situation.

Phrags seem to come in the little puffy red- type and the nearly rothchildarium type with the long sepals. (I like those better. Paphs are green and that reddish brown and white, so you do not get pinks and reds. In phrags you get reds and pinks as well as greens and tans.

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I take that back *errata* paphs can have some pink in them. Silly me.

[PaphMadMan]

That is a Maudiae type Paph, probably a hybrid. A precise ID will not be possible. There are no Phrags with mottled leaves. It should be a bit easier to grow under indoor conditions than a bulldog type, but basically similar. A bit less light, and without the slightly cooler drier winter rest usually recommended for bulldogs. Complete culture instructions for Maudiae type should be easy to find.

[judith_arquette]

Originally Posted by PaphMadMan

That is a Maudiae type Paph, probably a hybrid. A precise ID will not be possible. There are no Phrags with mottled leaves. It should be a bit easier to grow under indoor conditions than a bulldog type, but basically similar. A bit less light, and without the slightly cooler drier winter rest usually recommended for bulldogs. Complete culture instructions for Maudiae type should be easy to find.

Thank you!

[Fairorchids]

Originally Posted by PaphMadMan

That is a Maudiae type Paph, probably a hybrid. A precise ID will not be possible. There are no Phrags with mottled leaves. It should be a bit easier to grow under indoor conditions than a bulldog type, but basically similar. A bit less light, and without the slightly cooler drier winter rest usually recommended for bulldogs. Complete culture instructions for Maudiae type should be easy to find.

Paphs do not need 'drier' winfer rest.

Under naturally cooler and darker winter conditions, plants dry out slower, so watering should be adjusted accordingly. However, with exception of Brachypetalums & and some Parvisepalums (armeniacum & micrantum), they should NEVER dry out between waterings.