Don't know where all of you purchase your chids from but here in Palm Springs Trader Joes sells whatever they get for $12.99 -- usually in good condidtion (especially if I am able to get there the day they receive orchids -- most time A-/A+) The problem is.. You really have no clue what your getting other than "intergeneric orchid" or "dendrobium alliance". All that being said..... The attached pictures are 2 that I picked up today - one, the orange merely says epidendrum generic and the other says "intergeneric" -- NICE... Any clue?? They are both quite cool and in A+ shape as I find 90% of what Trader Joes sells (only like these you have no clue what you bought!!!! -- Thanx in advance to any of you who no more than I