Help with two NoID cattleyas

[Harris E.]

Hi, I normally wouldn't buy cattleyas without a tag but I was swept away by two plants in the bargain bin yesterday. Any help would be appreciated!

[RandomGemini]

The white one might be a Laelia hybrid. It looks sort of like Laelia anceps var. semi-alba, but I'm not sure that it is that.

The red one, I think is a sophronitis hybrid. They tend to be pretty small.

It will be hard to get a 100% positive ID without tags, but maybe this can point you in the right direction. Hopefully someone else recognizes them!

[judith_arquette]

Beautiful! Congrats on the new additions

[PaphMadMan]

Good clear full frontal pics, always helpful for identification. It would also be very helpful to see full plant pics in any identification request, but I can make some guesses.

The first may be C. (formerly Sl.) Jinn (C, coccinea x C. milleri). There are many other similar hybrids of this type, but that would be one of the simplest combinations to get a result of this type. With any NoID hybrid you can almost never be absolutely sure.

The second is probably C. intermedia.

[Harris E.]

Thanks for the suggestions! Here's a full pic of each in case that helps further ID them.

[euplusia]

I second C. intermedia for the white bifoliate, although a hybrid with intermedia cannot be excluded.