Impossible to get an exact ID, but both are hardcane non-deciduous Dendrobiums.
The first will be something in the Phalanthe group, the second probably also has Phalanthe group parentage but looks like it might also have something from the Staghorn types in it's parentage (wish I could remember the proper name for that group).
Both require similar care. When I first grew these I grew them very like Phalaenopsis orchids, but with higher light. I found the Phalanthe types could take almost direct light, but the Staghorn type wanted less. I kept them slightly damper than a Phalaenopsis.
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