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[King_of_orchid_growing:)]

Originally Posted by CambriaWhat

I think those oncidium hybrids are less tricky than phals to be honest.

I'd have to agree. Growing these should not be particularly difficult when grown right.

Imo, they're pretty straightforward.

[galgoa]

Yes, it is an oncidium intergeneric hybrid. Its name is Colmanara Massai Splash.
(Maybe it was renamed, but I'm not sure.)

[howze01]

Thats it galgoa! I'm amazed that I can post a pic of a random Orchid that I bought at the food store and someone knows what it is.... this board is amazing!

One more question though. I am trying to keep track of all my Orchids and I see it called Colmanara Masai Splash and Odontoglossum hibridai. What does the Colmanara Masai Splash mean? Pretty new to how names of Orchids work and I am trying to keep track of my Orchids properly.

Thanks again!!

[King_of_orchid_growing:)]

Colmanara = intergeneric genus name

To find out the genera involved in making a Colmanara, I recommend doing a Google search.

Either Masai or Masai Splash = grex name

Grex names are names given to a certain line of hybrids from a particular genus/intergeneric genus.

If Splash is actually written in single quotation marks, such as so - 'Splash'; then it would be considered the cultivar name.

A cultivar name is usually assigned to a generation of a certain line of orchids.

If I'm incorrect about the description of the name types, I shouldn't be too far off.

Btw, I never really nail down the name of a hybrid that was originally purchased without a name tag because of the issue with cultivar names. I mean, the genus/intergeneric genus can be fairly obvious. Many people will not be wrong about this. The grex name can be a bit trickier to nail down, but a good number of people may be on the ball about it. The problem lies with the cultivar name. How do you really know that it really is that particular cultivar? What if you thought it was a particular cultivar when it really was a different cultivar, because the flowers of both cultivars looked very similar to each other?

I'm not saying that your plant isn't Colmanara Masai Splash or Colmanara Masai 'Splash', but what if there was another orchid with a slightly different name that was similar looking?

I recommend only accepting this ID tentatively until you are absolutely sure there are no other Onc intergenerics that look similar to your orchid but have a different name.

[Optimist]

Colmenara is the name of the intergenaric species. It is a mixture of ondontoglossum, miltonia, and oncidium. Hybrids like this were created to make it easier for people in normal house situations to raise orchids. They are considered "east care". There is a variation in leaf thickness, and root thickness. If it is thin leaved and thin roots, it requires less light and more water. If thick leaves and thick roots it requires less. Oncidiums like this with a lot of miltonia in them generally need the small or medium bark because it retains slightly more water than the large bark, thus the drying time is a bit more. Thin rooted oncs also do not want to dry out all the way.

Massai is a family of Colmenaras with rich dark red flowers. Splash is a sub group of cultivars with this different colored lip. I forget the botanical term for these names.

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I mean "easy care" sorry.

[howze01]

Wow...lots to learn! I had to go through and read both of your posts a couple times to wrap my brain around that one!

And no worries king, I like to keep track of the names for them just for my records. Nothing is set in stone but being new to this I like to have a name I can use to keep them all separate. I absolutely love the "Manage Orchids" section of my Control Panel! Makes keeping track of them soooo much easier! A big thumbs up to whoever had that idea

Thanks again for the great information everyone!

[Corsetière]

I have a Colmanara Masai Red and it is doing extremely well in S/H culture. It is a very vigorous grower, rivaling even Onc. Sharry Baby.



Here are some more photos of it - Colmanara Masai Red - The Gilded Orchid

[Fairorchids]

You can grow all orchids in just about anything, including moss, it is just a question of watering accordingly.

I used to grow intergeneric Oncids in a mix of chunky peat with a little bark, charcoal and Leca nuggets. It works great for my watering schedule (once a week), but it breaks down in 18-24 months.

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I looked up Masai Red in OrchidWiz, and it is recorded as (Unknown x Unknown), which is highly unusual for modern hybrids. On that background, it is not even certain that it is a Colmanara.

[King_of_orchid_growing:)]

Originally Posted by Fairorchids

You can grow all orchids in just about anything, including moss, it is just a question of watering accordingly.

Not trying to disagree for the sake of disagreeing, but I don't think this statement holds water. While I understand the point that is trying to be made, I err on the caution of using all inclusive statements to make wide sweeping generalizations for which they may not be true.

It is probably better to presume you are speaking strictly about certain epiphytic orchids rather than all orchids.

I know of certain orchids where growing them in just about anything, especially moss, will produce repeated failures. Particularly many terrestrial orchids.

[Orchidflowerchild]

try sliding a butter knife around the inside of the ceramic pot between it and the plastic to pop the plastic pot out.

-Ceci