Is this c. nobilior?

[isurus79]

Originally Posted by Autumn Child

This is suppose to be a c. nobilior coerulea x sib
...Turns out to be a non coerulea and that is okay.
However, it is flowering (first flowering) from what looks like a semi-formed pseudo bulb unlike any c. nobilior i have seen from the internet. I have had this plant since 2010 when it was a seedling and have been growing it in S/H and under bright artificial lights. It is extremely fragrant, the aroma from the two flowers fills up my large bedroom easily during the day.

Is this a c. nobilior or a hybrid of c. nobilior?

I have to say, this looks like C. mesquitae to me. Catt. nobilior has very distinctive markings on the lip (as shown in the pics by Brooke). This plant simply doesn't have them and it looks like the markings that most C. mesquitae have.

[Autumn Child]

Originally Posted by isurus79

I have to say, this looks like C. mesquitae to me. Catt. nobilior has very distinctive markings on the lip (as shown in the pics by Brooke). This plant simply doesn't have them and it looks like the markings that most C. mesquitae have.

This is what i am afraid of. However, the plant did not produce any single leaf pseudobuld and its pseudobulb is very large, much larger than my walkerianas bulb. The flower is also much bigger than my walkeriana flowers. It also smells quite different.

Most mequitae i see on the internet have overlapping side lopes while mine is overlapping. The nose and lips is also protuding forward typical of nobilior. I feel that flower is more typical of nobilior.

This is also its first flowering and the flowering condition is not optimal as it flower just 2 cm away from the fluorescent light which gives off considerable heat and brightness. I will try to flower it next year and i will update this post with the result of the second flowering under better condition.

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Originally Posted by brooke

In my post I said I got the one from SA - it came from Miranda's operation.

The nobilior really really needs a hard dry winter to flower profusely.

Brooke

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When I shut the g/h up I checked on the two nobilior. The one from Miranda, the amalie form, has singleton leaves on the pbulbs.

The other one was from one of my favorite Ebay vendors and it has two leaves per pbulb.

Does this species do whatever it wants to do?

Brooke

I did not give mine any dry winter rest as it grows in s/h and receive constant watering. I also noticed that one of my nobilior which is a cross of of amaliae form and the concolor form have some single leaf pseudobulbs, while the tipo shown in this post do not have single leaf pseudobulb. I also have another nobilior which is suppose to be nobilior courelia, but it has single leaf pseudobulb and also a double leaf pseudobulb. I am still waiting for it to flower to confirm its identity.

[isurus79]

Originally Posted by Autumn Child

This is what i am afraid of. However, the plant did not produce any single leaf pseudobuld and its pseudobulb is very large, much larger than my walkerianas bulb. The flower is also much bigger than my walkeriana flowers. It also smells quite different.

Most mequitae i see on the internet have overlapping side lopes while mine is overlapping. The nose and lips is also protuding forward typical of nobilior. I feel that flower is more typical of nobilior.

This is also its first flowering and the flowering condition is not optimal as it flower just 2 cm away from the fluorescent light which gives off considerable heat and brightness. I will try to flower it next year and i will update this post with the result of the second flowering under better condition

I have to say that nobilior bulbs can be a bit taller than many walkeriana varieties, so having this plant being a bit taller than pure walkeriana is not strange. I don't see anything unusual about the vegetative habit of your plant that would make think its not mesquitae. The growth habit seems to be pretty normal for this cross. The coloration of the lip is definitely not pure nobilior and if it were me, I would feel comfortable lableing it as mesquitae.