Please help ID this Phal

[whatsthat]

Can anyone id this Phal or give a hint as to its lineage? I have limited access to orchids--Lowe's and sometimes Walmart. This guy is unlike others I have seen.
Thanks so much--you guys give great info and I have learned much by my "lurks".

[BruceP]

What you have there is a 'peloric', i.e. deformed, phal hybrid. Essentially a genetic mutation rather than a characteristic of anything in its background. Sometimes this results from over-cloning, other times it just happens spontaneously and it may be stable, or not (that is the next flowering may result in 'normal' looking flowers).
Some folks love these, others hate them (I'm in the latter category, sorry to say). Some of the stable ones are actually bred to propagate the mutation.
Google "peloric phalaenopsis" and you'll see other similar types as well as other unusual mutations.

[orchidsarefun]

I don't know the grex, but it definitely has peloric flowers.
Peloria originally arose as a genetic defect and some nurseries then bred plants to carry this trait. It seems to be increasing in popularity, judging by an increasing number I see for sale.

[Zoi2]

Your phal is lovely and I do like the pelorics.
Without an ID tag it is impossible to identify your plant, there are just too many phals that are mass produced.
Joann

[Bud]

looking at the spots on the petal and the colors on the lip...this must have a Phal. Leopard in its lineage...but we wont know the other traits until the next time bloom...

[camille1585]

Beautiful spots! It's not a full, true peloric though, people would call one like this semi-peloric in that the petals are curved in like the lip, but still retain their petal look. A true peloric has those petals looking exactly like the lip in shape and often color.

[whatsthat]

Thanks all. I wondered if it might be an anomaly as it is very different from any others offered here. When I got it home and removed the wrapping, I found it was sitting in a great deal of water. I immediately repotted, but when I had it out yesterday, I found some of the roots had turned black, so I cut them off, sprayed, prayed and--well, we'll see if there will be another bloom, or not.

Thanks all.

[The Mutant]

Originally Posted by camille1585

Beautiful spots! It's not a full, true peloric though, people would call one like this semi-peloric in that the petals are curved in like the lip, but still retain their petal look. A true peloric has those petals looking exactly like the lip in shape and often color.

True peloric in case anyone wants to know what they might look like (my little NoID):

[whatsthat]

The photos don't do it justice--the colors don't show as beautiful as they really are. The buds were all olive drab green, the spots overlay a paler olive which is hard to pick up on in the pics--and the backs of the leaves retain the olive coloring. My other orchids (phals) "the right thing"--but like a different child--it calls out to me. I really want this bad boy to live!
Thanks