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Old 02-16-2012, 10:03 PM
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Our local society's orchid show is coming up and I would like to register this NoID I bought at the grocery store for the flower judging. I'm wondering what category to enter it under- It's clearly got some Brassia in it, but does it looks like it's only Brassia, or a Brassidium inter-generic?

Please forgive the quality of the photos- I just used my point and shoot in the interest of speed.
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Old 02-16-2012, 10:13 PM
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Connie - What you have there is Brsdm. Kenneth Bivin (Onc. cariniferum X Brs. arcuigera) which actually now is Odontobrassia or Odbrs. Good luck!!
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Old 02-16-2012, 10:51 PM
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Wow, not only are the flowers spectacular, but the plant is so healthy. Congrats.
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Old 02-16-2012, 11:07 PM
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Thanks, Glen!
Is it okay to register it under that name, even if it didn't come with the tag?
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Old 02-16-2012, 11:07 PM
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Connie - What you have there is Brsdm. Kenneth Bivin (Onc. cariniferum X Brs. arcuigera) which actually now is Odontobrassia or Odbrs. Good luck!!
What you meant was, now Brassidium, formerly Odontobrassia. RIP genus Odontoglossum.
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Old 02-16-2012, 11:08 PM
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Elona,
That's partly why I bought the plant because it looked so healthy. You can't see in the photos, but it has two other spikes ready to bloom soon.
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Old 02-16-2012, 11:24 PM
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Thanks, Glen!
Is it okay to register it under that name, even if it didn't come with the tag?
I would have no hesitation, for me there is no doubt that it is Kenneth Bivens.

msaar - you are absolutely right, got that backwards, too busy talking on the phone and posting at the same time. Good catch, thanks.
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Beautiful happy healthy plant, Connie....I am always glad when Glen comes to the rescue.
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Old 02-19-2012, 11:56 AM
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Erm, I was under the impression that you could never show an orchid that came with no ID, as you can't say for sure that it's a particular orchid without genetic tests?

I'm new, so maybe I don't know all the ins and outs...
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Erm, I was under the impression that you could never show an orchid that came with no ID, as you can't say for sure that it's a particular orchid without genetic tests?
As in most things, there are no absolutes. An enormous number of the plants in commerce these days are mericlones, and many of these are so distinctive they can be easily identified, such as this one.
As I see on forums nearly every day, while your first reaction should be to believe the tag that comes with your plant, incorrect labels are common.
Showing unidentified plants is a subject which has many shades of gray. I have yet to see any object to displaying an un-entered unidentified plant in a local show. Many local shows welcome unidentified plants if entered in the proper class; this is even more true with unidentified species. The philosophy of many is the more the merrier, and let's do what we can to encourage new growers. The decision to show only identified will come as the grower becomes more sophisticated. Unidentified species, especially when the genus is known is pretty common, and often win ribb ons. Larger shows in which space is limited may be more strict.
Correct identification is absolutely required when submitting a plant for formal judging (AOS, etc)
This has been a little rambling, and I may have missed a point or two, so jump in if you disagree.
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