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Old 08-22-2007, 01:59 PM
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It looks like a Cattleya intermedia. What do you think? Does it have a name?

When I bought it, the flower was white with a purple (dark red) lip, but now is almost pink....
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Old 08-22-2007, 02:38 PM
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It might be C. intermedia, perhaps Rosim could confirm. I can't define it, but something about it tells me that it's a hybrid. If not the species itself, it has intermedia as a parent. The color difference is probably due to temperature and lighting being different than previously.
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Old 08-23-2007, 11:25 PM
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Nico, I have the same feeling Phantasm has about it. At first sight it has the general appearance of C. intermedia, but looking carefully, something bugs me in this flower. All intermedia have that purple going beneath the column. In fact, that region has four or five purple crests with the 'valleys' between them usually white, giving the impression of stripes (please, take a look at the region just in fron of the colum tip in the following post Cattleya intermedia orlata-aquini) This 'purple-white' stripped configuration is not mandatory, of course, but is a distinctive character of this species; also, this trait has a certain dominance in crosses where C. intermedia participates as a parent. The interesting detail is that in such crosses that region often looses the stripped aspect to become blurred, just like what can be seen on your flower. Please, check out the blurred region I'm talking about just in front of the column tip of Cat. Claesiana, a primary hybrid involving intermedia that I posted the other day at Cattleya Claesiana Aquini
The leaves position forming a sharp angle also is not common. They usually are almost horizontally positioned in intermedia.
I agree with Phantasm, for me it seems not to be pure Cat. intermedia, but it has it in high percentage in its background, for sure.
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Old 08-24-2007, 09:10 AM
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Thank you very much for the information, Phantasm and Rosim.

Indeed, no stripes, except for one in the middle. But this area is not that blured as Cattleya Claesiana.

It is fragrant. Can this mean something?

So, my Cat is C. intermedia x something... For me is OK.
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Old 08-24-2007, 12:08 PM
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Nico, can you post a closer photo of the region under the column, keeping the lip down so that the white stripe appears? I'd like to take a look at the at it because several Cat. intermedia have just one large white 'valley'. Also, perhaps my impression that the region is blurred is due to the photo, not to the flower itself. This may give a definition, after all.
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Old 08-24-2007, 03:51 PM
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It's a really delicate bloom, I love it!
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Old 08-26-2007, 03:32 PM
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Sorry! I didn't have time to post a picture, but next days I hope to do this. Many thanks!!
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Old 08-27-2007, 12:51 PM
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Nico, I am posting a picture of my Cat. intermedia which has just opened showing the characteristic purple crests in the throat. This probably will help you to correctly classify your flower.
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Also, I'd like to make a note on what I said before about the almost horizontal position of the leaves in intermedia. That is true for the most part of the plants of the southern ecotype, those we generally grow here. But, it happens that we have two ecotypes and for the higher plants from my State those "V" shaped leaves are not that uncommon. It is just that like we don't grow them so often, we end up forgetting some characteristics they show.
So, please, do not take into account that comment as a valid way to distinguish the species, OK?

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Old 08-30-2007, 02:07 PM
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Nico, I am posting a picture of my Cat. intermedia which has just opened showing the characteristic purple crests in the throat. This probably will help you to correctly classify your flower.
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Also, I'd like to make a note on what I said before about the almost horizontal position of the leaves in intermedia. That is true for the most part of the plants of the southern ecotype, those we generally grow here. But, it happens that we have two ecotypes and for the higher plants from my State those "V" shaped leaves are not that uncommon. It is just that like we don't grow them so often, we end up forgetting some characteristics they show.
So, please, do not take into account that comment as a valid way to distinguish the species, OK?
OK. No problem. Here's the picture.
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Old 08-30-2007, 06:20 PM
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The column and anther cap are covering up any indication of the purple lines leading to the column, so while they don't appear to be there, perhaps they are just covered up?
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