noid, seen this growth before?

[mi xiao]

hello all!

i am new here.
i was lurking the past few days, and thought i would say hi.

i bought a noid, which i felt sorry for at h=2* d+*$#.
it was tagged a phal, but i am not sure if that was right (i won't pretend i know enough to know difference).

i usually know not to buy from places like these, as you're only propagating the poor treatment of plants.

however, i saw this little guy and was drawn to the "nub" at the top of the old flower spike.

after a few weeks the "nub" turned into something wierd. it looks like a jack in the pulpit flower (for lack of better description).
***and*** in the past few days it has decided to ROOT! TWICE!
i think?

have you ever seen this before?
what do i do with it?
i searched the forum and pictures here for anything that closely resembles it.

i have attached two pics. before you flame me for poor art skills, i took these with my camera phone.

thanks a bunch for helping me out.

[cb977]

Could you post a picture of the whole plant? It might make it a little easier for us to figure this one out

[Ironwood]

It hazily resembles a keiki on a cut off Phalaenopsis spike.

From Wikipedia:
Keiki, the Hawaiian word for a "baby", refers to a plant produced asexually by an orchid plant, usually used when referring to Dendrobiums, Phalaenopsis, or Vandaceous orchids. The baby plant is an exact clone of the mother plant, sometimes flowering while still attached to the mother plant.

[mi xiao]

i will post more pics when i get my camera back.

it kinda does sound like a keiki. i think you are correct.
i believe it is a little deformed from treatment by previous owner?



if it is, i will look up possible ways to help this keiki grow the way it should from now on.

[mi xiao]

hi-
i have a further question regarding my plant (yes, my camera is still with my bh and have no good pics).

the keiki appears to be growing a spike. it doesn't really look like a root, and it is in a different place.
am i crazy? or is my plant crazy?

i am sorry again for not having pictures, but i promise i will get some soon.

the keiki is growing the roots out to about 2-3 inches and the main plant has been shooting out a few new roots this month. i am assuming by this plant not being dead, i am doing a great job.
ha ha.

i am very hesitant to cut off the keiki right now, but i wanted to know if it was possible for a keiki to grow a spike while attached still?

thanks again.
m.

[mi xiao]

hi!
i finally got my camera back.

now i'm looking for advice. i took a few pics of my phal.
if you notice:
there is a keiki with two roots (about 3 inches long) which is also spiking.

however, if you look at the axial section....the outer leaf is folded around the rest of the keiki.
have you ever seen this before?
can i do anything? i can't move the leaves at all.
what will happen in the future?
is it possible the plant may be suffocated off?

is it time to separate them?
if so, where do you think is the most appropriate place to cut?
please help me with any additional instructions i may have forgotten!!
thanks

[Ross]

Wow! I've never seen this in all my days. You have a new flower spike and a frozen growth. Doubt the growth will ever do anything, but the spike should. In all honesty, if this were my plant, I would cut off this spike down near bottom and let plant recover. Then enjoy the new spike when it emerges later. JMO.

[mi xiao]

hmm. this is not what i was expecting to hear at all.

[mi xiao]

what is this frozen growth?
would i be able to split it open to free it?


does anybody else think otherwise???


i still haven't touched it.
still thinking. :S

[new_orchid_rescuer]

Hello, not knowing very much about this at all... I would just let it be for now. Since the parent plant is producing new roots, it's doing okay, and I don't think the keiki could support the spike on its own (by being removed from the parent) I would just enjoy the flowers that it produces. Maybe after it finishes flowering, another (hopefully normal) leaf will appear. I've found that the biggest mistakes that I've made in Orchid growing is in making decisions too quickly, or acting too quickly. Nothing is really broke, so why fix it?