pls help id 2 phals

[dsim]

hi, finally they bloomed .. any id's to these phals is greatly appreciated. thanks for viewing..

[Daethen]

Both are very pretty, but I doubt you will get an id with all the hybridizing that is done on these. Just enjoy them.

[silken]

Very lovely blooms, but as Daethen said, once a NOID always a NOID, especially in the Phal world where there are so many hybrids. They are no less enjoyable in my mind.

[RosieC]

I agree, gorgeous flowers, but Phals are so masively hybridised that there can be many with identical look and even if you found something that looked the same it could have completely different parantage.

Don't worry, some of my favourites are NoID, I give mine made up names just for my own purposes. I'm just careful to keep a record that those names are not real and to indicate that when I post pictures.