bulbophyllum ID needed

[catasetum-ian]

bought this one labelled as bulbophyllum aeolium, but somehow looks different from the picture in internet that i found. any help please

[aquabodk]

Maybe Bulbophyllum forestii (or Rhytionanthos aemulus). I don't know which name is valid.
IOSPE list Rhytionanthos aemulus as a synonym for B. forestii.
IOSPE PHOTOS
Zipcodezoo.com lists both names as valid.

[catasetum-ian]

hi, thanks for the input aquabodk. but when i dig into bulbophyllum forestii, came out another name that is mentioned there commonly mixed up with it is bulbophyllum helenae. after looking at the pics, it seems more like bulb helenae bucause of the lip. for bulb. forestii the lip is semi open and bulb. helenae is funnel shape as in mine. any opinions, i dun know much about bulbo, just that can see more similarity in bulb. helenae than bulb forestii.

[aquabodk]

Your velcome. I don't know much about Bulbos too, so I can't help any further.
I just saw a picture of Rhytionanthos aemolum in one of my books after seeing your picture, and thought they looked similar.

[catasetum-ian]

Oo la la.....this one the description fits well into it as well,,,,,,,perhaps will wait for someone else for further info. and AUABODK, you had been of great help, very much appreciated, thanks for all the info.

[Tindomul]

Whatever it is, its a jewel!

[catasetum-ian]

thanks tindomul, eventually other bulbo collectors seems to agree more on bulbophyllum helenae. :-)

[King_of_orchid_growing:)]

Originally Posted by catasetum-ian

hi, thanks for the input aquabodk. but when i dig into bulbophyllum forestii, came out another name that is mentioned there commonly mixed up with it is bulbophyllum helenae. after looking at the pics, it seems more like bulb helenae bucause of the lip. for bulb. forestii the lip is semi open and bulb. helenae is funnel shape as in mine. any opinions, i dun know much about bulbo, just that can see more similarity in bulb. helenae than bulb forestii.

That long "tube" you can easily see without a jeweler's loupe, is not the lip. The actual lip (labellum) is tiny. What you're seeing and what you're talking about are the sepals.

Look for the lip in between the sepals underneath the column. It looks like a narrow, tiny little orange extended tongue (like when a kid sticks his/her tongue out after drinking a bunch of orange soda).

[catasetum-ian]

hi, Philip, thanks for the info. saw the lip you mentioned by zooming the photo i had, tqvm

[King_of_orchid_growing:)]

You're welcome. Yeah, no problem.

If you're wondering where the petals are...

They're between the striped, hooded dorsal sepal and the long tubular synsepals (fused sepals). They look like orange angel wings with red edges and red tips.

Should you be looking to breed this species, the stigmatic opening is very easy to find on an enlarged version of your pic. It's actually much larger than I thought they'd be!

If you look at the column, petals, and the lip, all together they resemble an "orange angel". The lip is the "lower torso". The petals are the "wings". The column is the "upper torso". In the "upper torso" of the "angel", you can see what looks like the "head" of the "angel" - that's the anther cap where the pollinia are hidden. Underneath the "head" of the "angel" is what looks like the "neckline" of the "gown", or what looks like a "bib" - that's the stigmatic opening.