Vietnamese Terrestrial - Page 3 - Orchid Board

lepanthes89 · #21 05-28-2009, 10:09 PM

Sorry, that is definetly not a Paphiopedilum species,and Im not sure its an orchid.From what I can see from the flower, it has all the right parts,but we need to see a good picture of the flower,and a dissected flower,so the parts are visible.
And please dont bother to dig up the root;orchids have all sorts of different types of roots.Having tuberous roots does not make it an orchid.
take care.

shadec · #22 05-29-2009, 03:51 AM

tuberous roots would, i would have thought, confirm that it is NOT an orchid
is here a Botanical Garden near you? botanists there may be able to help you if you cant get any better photos :P
try macro settings?
-J

rogerman · #23 05-29-2009, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by lepanthes89

Sorry, that is definetly not a Paphiopedilum species,and Im not sure its an orchid.From what I can see from the flower, it has all the right parts,but we need to see a good picture of the flower,and a dissected flower,so the parts are visible.
And please dont bother to dig up the root;orchids have all sorts of different types of roots.Having tuberous roots does not make it an orchid.
take care.

Well Brett, My wife has typed in the Thai name for "Long tal narlie" (I don't know the transliteration for it) and I have come up with the Paph species page. I will say, that is looks VERY similar to the ones that I have growing. You are welcome to come around and compare with the plants I have growing here.

Heres the link:-

Species Photo Gallery

It is a huge site and a very good one at that.....Maybe that will help.

Lepanthes89, I'm sorry, but you will find that there are a lot of Orchids here that haven't made it into America, as they are protected.

seamonkey · #24 05-29-2009, 11:51 AM

Those leaves don't look like any paph I've ever seen, and I've seen hundreds (admittedly a small number compared to most of y'all

). The foliage shape reminds me more of my Ludisia. I'm no specialist in Vietnamese orchids though.

A G · #25 05-29-2009, 04:54 PM

I can admit that the spotted leaves looks like a bit like a Paph. But the new growths and the flowers does not look like a Paph. I have never seen a Paph with such short spike (Cyps on the other hand does that), but I don't believe that its a Paph or a Cyp.

Better pictures of the flower would help. Looks very nice anyway.

s1214215 · #26 05-31-2009, 12:51 PM

Here are some more pics. Sorry, cant get the root shots off my phone as I left the cable at work. They dont look like an orchids roots though. A mass of tiny tubers, more like something in the ginger family. A Thai herb, Kratchai is somewhat similar, but larger. Also there is that smell that some gingers have.

Still, it had me fooled until I uprooted it. Have a look at the pics of the sexual parts of the flower. I have tried to pollinate it and no luck. It seems to have a globule ofllen like an orchids too.

I will post root pics soon as I get my transfer cable

Brett

baulou · #27 06-01-2009, 02:47 AM

Looks like Kaempferia rotunda. Take a look at this link:

Killerplants.com

s1214215 · #28 06-01-2009, 03:10 AM

I agree, except it has leaves while flowering. I think it is a Kaempheria after all though. I was confused though as the sexual parts of the flower are so orchid-like. Pretty little plant, but it is not an orchid, so it goes. No room at my place for non-orchidaceous plants

Brett

shadec · #29 06-01-2009, 05:24 AM

http://www.ganeshvilla.com/gingers/i...nda_leaves.jpg

its not rotunda, but the flowers are similar. how rigid are the flowers?
i dont think it matters that much!
if it really means a lot to you, go to a botanical garden and ask the botanists there to identify it for you
-J

s1214215 · #30 06-01-2009, 05:46 AM

Thanks Shadec

No, it doesnt mean a lot. It was only when I was trying to work out if it was an orchid. The leaves are quite rigid. Its off to a new home in a friends garden.

It's a good mimic though until you see the tuberous roots.

Thanks for the assistance everyone

Brett