Orchid ID help please - Orchid Board

andrew__ · #1 03-08-2009, 12:02 PM

I took this picture back at the Southern Ontario Orchid Society show and didn't note the name. Just bought one but it didn't come with a name either. Any help appreciated

flowers are an inch across if even that big, relatively large pseudobulbs (elongated slightly) with thick stiff leaves. I'll take a picture of the plant tonight.

andrew__ · #2 03-09-2009, 12:42 AM

As promised, here are some more shots that might help. That's a... 3"? pot and the plant is (including spike) maybe 8-10" tall, definitely less than 1'.

snow · #3 03-09-2009, 01:34 AM

i,m going to guess''epidendrum? some one will pipe in i,m sure.

andrew__ · #4 03-10-2009, 11:52 PM

Hmm... similar sized flowers but I was under the impression that most epidendrums were monopodial? Wikipedia tells me that some have pseudobulbs but I can't find any pictures of an epi. species that does (and they only reference one species which was moved to a different genus and is less like this orchid than most of the monopodial epidendrums!)...

Any more thoughts?

I'll be asking at the store it was found at tomorrow but they have a bad record of getting IDs for all but the simplest of orchids...

MuscleGirl'sHobby · #5 03-11-2009, 12:27 AM

I haven't a clue! I'm certainly no expert, but I can say the pseudobulbs look like my zygopetalum, but they bloom from the base and that's certainly not a zygo bloom!

The leaves look much like my encyclia, although my pseudoebulbs are not as elongated. But, doesn't look like an Encyclia flower to me... at least that I know of.

So, I'm curious what it is too. It's very beautiful!

phalaephila · #6 03-11-2009, 12:34 AM

I grew a plant that looks exactly like yours: Epc. Kyoguchi. Attached is a photo of mine. There are different cultivars of this hybrid, not sure if I had 'Fumi' or 'Happy Field'. Hope this helps!

Austinerd · #7 03-11-2009, 12:37 AM

Maybe some sort of Brassolaeliocattleya? (Like I know what I'm talking about....just smile and nod) haha

andrew__ · #8 03-11-2009, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by phalaephila

I grew a plant that looks exactly like yours: Epc. Kyoguchi. Attached is a photo of mine. There are different cultivars of this hybrid, not sure if I had 'Fumi' or 'Happy Field'. Hope this helps!

we have a winner! Thanks a ton, definitely Epc. Kyogouchi but also not sure which cultivar, all the pictures online of both look the same (and different) with (to me) no obvious visual differences

I'll just leave it at Epc. Kyogouchi and not try to guess any further than that unless the grower can tell me (which I guess wouldn't be a guess would it...)

Apparently it's not an Epicat anymore though? "Guaricyclia Kyoguchi = Guarianthe aurantiaca x Encyclia incumbens (syn. aromatica) Formerly known as Epicattleya (Epc.) Kyoguchi, back when Guarianthe was in Cattleya and Encyclia was in Epidendrum."

MuscleGirl'sHobby & Austinerd - I was leaning towards some random catt alliance member as well. Intergenics can be hard to find pictures of sometimes! Throw three in the mix and you've lost me

Oh, and both spikes are just about fully open, I'll be taking some pictures either tomorrow or Thursday.

Epicatt2 · #9 03-04-2013, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by andrew__

we have a winner! Thanks a ton, definitely Epc. Kyogouchi but also not sure which cultivar...

Hello All,

Just a follow up for the OP and Andrew ref Epc. Kyoguchi. I have liked this hybrid since I first ever saw one. For me it they display the best characteristics of the two parents, Encyclia incumbens (syn. E. aromatica) and Cattleya aurantiaca.

There are three cultivars in the trade: 'Fumi', 'Happy Field', and 'Nishima'. The photo the original poster sent looks to be of the cultivar 'Nishima' which is the one which has the most saturated yellow color of those three cultivars available.

I have seen one that had flowers that were a glorious, saturated orange like the 'aurantiaca' parent but otherwise was intermediate between the two parents. It had fine maroon veining in the lip which made a nice contrast against the orange background. Alas I fear that that cultivar bit the dust during the Benlate tragedies which put the owner of it out of business.

So, yes, her plant is almost certainly Epc. Kyocuchi 'Nishima'.

Hope this helps . . . (Better late than never!)

Cheers!

Paul M.
Tampa, FL / Alajuela, Costa Rica
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