What species (or cross) might this cattleya in old photos be?

[escualida]

Hi all,

I have these photos of a cattleya that my grandmother had in 2006. The plants are long gone but I'm curious as to what they might have been. (Apologies for the blurry photos, apparently I wasn't great with a camera back then lol).

For context, they were grown outdoors in Caracas, Venezuela. Could it be a lueddemanniana or maybe a mossiae? Or maybe some kind of hybrid? I'm not great at IDs so I figured it wouldn't hurt to ask.

What do you think?

[Louis_W]

Looks like C. labiata to me.

[WaterWitchin]

I think Louis is correct. Used to have a C. labiata v. coerulea that I loved. It was a beautiful plant, right up until a newbie mistake sent it to the orchid compost in the sky.

[escualida]

Thank you both!

[Jmoney]

labiata is a fall bloomer with double sheaths. if it has both then maybe it is labiata. otherwise likely hard to tell for sure. doesn't seem like a "complex" hybrid.

[escualida]

So since these were taken in March, does that mean it's likely not a labiata?

[Roberta]

Seasonality would be different in Venezuela. Still northern hemisphere, but barely. C. labiata is definitely a fall bloomer in northern latitudes.
C mossiae maybe?

[escualida]

Thanks Roberta - I wasn't sure if the plants still "knew" what season it was even in a place like Caracas, where it's so close to the equator that the variation between seasons is negligible, even the days don't really change in length.

I guess we'll never really know for sure, but I appreciate the input from everyone!