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08-19-2022, 09:06 PM
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Neighbor's Outdoor Orchids - ID, Please, If Possible
Just curious what type they are. We live in Hardiness Zone 9.
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08-19-2022, 09:13 PM
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All three are Cymbidiums but I can't tell you what kinds.
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08-19-2022, 09:50 PM
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If they are blooming in zone 9 they are warmth-tolerant Cymbidium hybrids.
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08-20-2022, 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by 6ByAccident
Just curious what type they are. We live in Hardiness Zone 9.
Thank you!
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Cymbidiums. Tough as nails. They can tolerate temperatures down to about 29 deg F (-2 deg C), especially if it warms up a bit during the day. They can also tolerate summer highs above 100 deg F ( 38 deg C) or higher (shading from direct noonday sun but the ambient temperature is no problem) Those look like standard, generic Cyms. Put them on the patio, squirt with a hose when you think about it... and they bloom their heads off. The standard (not so-called warmth-tolerant) Cyms need a sharp temperature drop in the fall (warm days and cool nights are perfect) to set spikes, with blooming typically between December and April depending on the parentage of a given plant.
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To truly appreciate the resilience of Cymbidiums, check out these notes from a grower in the San Diego area (in a location that does get frost, but in 2007 it was much colder than normal) The Dendrobiums mentioned on the website were from temperate parts of Australia (like Den kingianum, speciosum, and hybrids where those are dominant) Equally tough. (Dens come from many environments, all are not this cold-tolerant, but these definitely are)
For the record, some of those blooming Cyms in the photos were in a show about 3 weeks later, looking perfect.
Ice
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08-20-2022, 12:32 AM
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Florida fruit growers use this technique to coat the trees with ice when the winter freezes happen. Good to know it can save some orchids too.
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08-20-2022, 12:38 AM
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Florida fruit growers use this technique to coat the trees with ice when the winter freezes happen. Good to know it can save some orchids too.
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The secret.. as long as there is liquid water being added (which is what the low-volume misters do) the temperature of the ice doesn't go below 32 deg F/0 deg C. (The transition of water from liquid to solid produces heat) Once there is no liquid water, the ice isn't protective other than maybe a layer of insulation and will eventually go down to ambient temperature. But in this case, the misters kept on putting out water. The only areas of the nursery where there was any damage were at the edges where the water pressure was insufficient.
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08-20-2022, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Roberta
Cymbidiums. Tough as nails. They can tolerate temperatures down to about 29 deg F (-2 deg C), especially if it warms up a bit during the day. They can also tolerate summer highs above 100 deg F ( 38 deg C) or higher (shading from direct noonday sun but the ambient temperature is no problem) Those look like standard, generic Cyms. Put them on the patio, squirt with a hose when you think about it... and they bloom their heads off. The standard (not so-called warmth-tolerant) Cyms need a sharp temperature drop in the fall (warm days and cool nights are perfect) to set spikes, with blooming typically between December and April depending on the parentage of a given plant.
---------- Post added at 08:03 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:49 PM ----------
To truly appreciate the resilience of Cymbidiums, check out these notes from a grower in the San Diego area (in a location that does get frost, but in 2007 it was much colder than normal) The Dendrobiums mentioned on the website were from temperate parts of Australia (like Den kingianum, speciosum, and hybrids where those are dominant) Equally tough. (Dens come from many environments, all are not this cold-tolerant, but these definitely are)
For the record, some of those blooming Cyms in the photos were in a show about 3 weeks later, looking perfect.
Ice
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Thank you for the info. Sounds like an interesting article. But I couldn't see a link anywhere...
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08-20-2022, 08:05 PM
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Thank you for the info. Sounds like an interesting article. But I couldn't see a link anywhere...
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Link says "ICE" Click on the word
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08-20-2022, 08:06 PM
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Thank you, all, for responding! I really appreciate it!
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