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Old 07-29-2006, 10:26 AM
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I need some more clarifications. I know that there are 50-60 Phal. species. If we cross two of them then we have a Primary Hybrid. An example would be a cross between Phal stuartiana X Phal lindenii which could be Phal.Bantangas.

My first question is, how is a primary hybrid named, in this example as Phal. Bantangas?


My second question is, how many primary phal. hybrids are there? Are they only the 50-60 phal. species crossed one time with each other?


My third question is what if we cross two primary hybrids with each other, what is this called? Is it still called a primary hybrid, or is it then called something else?
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Old 07-29-2006, 11:45 AM
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Old 07-29-2006, 12:01 PM
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Naming primaries is generally no different from naming any other hybrid (read this: http://www.firstrays.com/hybridregistration.htm

The only exception is if one has determined that the hybrid is a natural one - that is, it occurred without man's intervention in an area wheere two species' ranges overlap. In that case, the hybrid typically has an "X" in front of it - Phalaenopsis xNatural.

I don't know the number that have been registered, but if there are 50 species, the maximum number of species x species primary hybrids would be 1224 (the first can be crossed with 49 others to give 49, the second can be crossed with 48 others, giving a total of 97, etc. - A x B is the sames as B x A for registration purposes).

A cross made using ANY hybrid is no longer considered "primary", but becomes "complex", although that term is usually used in the traditional sense when the hybrid has a lot of family tree under it. For your example, one often hears that the second generation hybrid is a "crossing of two primaries".
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Whew, thats heavy. Never could understand it Ray, you made it sound less complicated. thks.

Tks for the hyper Marco, definitely my next purchase ... you think they have one for "dummies"...lol.
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Old 07-30-2006, 10:17 AM
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Thanks Ray. Where can I find the most complete listing of primary hybrids phals. for sell? If there are 1,200 or which vendors specialize in these guys? I have been studying p. species all summer, so I would now like to expand to studys to the P. primary hybrids.
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