Dtps. Brother Success FCC/AOS (in bloom with two spikes)

[NYCorchidman]

Well, I thought something was a bit odd as the pictured flowers are no where near full round form (and not flat enough) and given the proportion of the pot and the plant itself, flowers are not 5 inch across...

I wonder if it's mislabeled.

Whatever it is, I still like the color on this a lot!

[Bud]

Originally Posted by msaar

Bud, the flowers in your photos in no way recreate the form of the FCC-awarded clone 'Laura'. As for size, the awarded flowers were 12.1 cm-nearly 5". I point this out for two reasons-to let you know that if someone represented this plant as the FCC clone, they may have misrepresented it, and to let other forum members know that these flowers do not represent FCC-quality flowers from the AOS judging system. The award-winning flowers may be seen by Googling Dtps. Brother Success 'Laura'.

You are very right!
My plant came from Taipeh and not from Tom....so how dare I compare my plant from the multi awarded 'Laura'.....and thank God my flower doesnt have that FCC/AOS after all....
but it came from the original plant Dtps. Brother success from Brother's orchids....without the FCC/AOS and the 'Laura'

[goodgollymissmolly]

OK I'm lost. At first you said this is the plant that received an FCC at Heart of Dixie OS and owned by Stones River Orchids. You actually gave a great deal of detail even while leaving out the clonal name indicating your lack of understanding regarding the makeup of a name.

Now you are saying (I think) that it's a seedling of the same grex, Success. Not the same cultivar that was awarded.

Have I got this right?

[Vanda lover]

The magenta phals are my favourites. Back when I wanted my first orchid, that is the colour I wanted.
Nice Phal!

[Bud]

Originally Posted by brooke

Gorgeous Bud! Is this a keiki from Tom's awarded plant? Do you know the clonal name? If he is selling keikis I want to get in line and let one come live with me.

I love your blue sky background - you get more blue skies in Manhattan than I get living in flyover country.

Brooke

This is not a rare or a one of a kind orchid....You can get this plant at Dave's orchid....and this is mass produced since 2009 by the thousands and flasks by a Taiwanese lab and they claim to have gotten the seeds or materials from Tom's winning plant. (This is also the same lab I got the flask of my ghost orchid endemic to Florida; because this taiwan lab sends seedlings and mature plants to a branch in Florida=you can google the addy or email them)They claim to have the same DNA as the winning plant. But since it was noted that my plant is smaller several centimeters that the winning plant therefore it is not supposed to have a FCC/AOS in its tag.
Taiwan has a problem writing our alphabet and they omited 'Laura' or omitted something else on the tag....
FINE!
This gives me the licence to remove AOS from the tag because I refuse to promote them anyways....
I also adviced the Taiwan growers to remove the AOS from their tags for I know they just want mass production of this plant for cut flower purposes....they dont attend AOS shows for award purposes they just want to make money out of the award winning flowers....
I used to throw away tags ...but then again it gives me clues to the history and parents of my plants and its culture thats why I stopped throwing away tags and stayed true to what is written on it....
....I can call this plant Miss Piggy for all I care....
OH well....

[Brooke]

Bud you are giving some very confusing answers to the mislabeling of your plant. First your plant cannot have the same DNA unless the Taiwan vendor got a stem or got the plant and had it mericloned.

Bud - "but it came from the original plant Dtps. Brother success from Brother's orchids....without the FCC/AOS and the 'Laura'"

There could be 100's of the original plant because everything produced out of the two parents would be Brother Success. Not even pod mates have the same DNA just like your brother would have similar but not the same DNA.

I remember another time where you were corrected on some incorrectly tagged plants and you reacted in this same way. Everyone has had to make corrections at one time or another because mix ups happen. Getting upset will not do you or anyone any good.

You don't need a license to remove any tag you want to remove. You can call your plant anything you want to call it but if you post it to the web, it should be posted under a correct name, not an invented name. There is nothing wrong with Phal. Brother Success without the (edited out) history you posted.

Chill - you are making a mountain out of a mole hill with your snarky comments.

Brooke

[Bud]

Thanks, Brooke!

I respect your opinion because you have proven your worth ever since from that other forum we both membered in....you post pictures well grown orchids as proof of your experience and your advice is un-biased, un-opinionated and without a hint of malice....
whereas these upstarts have not even proven themselves here as growers of orchids; I have yet to see decent flowers posted by them....their only claim to fame is owning an orchidwiz and they think they are know it all....I refuse to listen to their opinion since they have no proof whatsoever of their ability to grow orchids nor blooming one ever at all....

[katrina]

Originally Posted by Bud

whereas these upstarts have not even proven themselves here as growers of orchids; I have yet to see decent flowers posted by them....their only claim to fame is owning an orchidwiz and they think they are know it all....I refuse to listen to their opinion since they have no proof whatsoever of their ability to grow orchids nor blooming one ever at all....

Upstarts? I'm not sure if that was directed at me but it sounds like it. I'm not sure what you mean by that.

As to the pics...I have plenty of pics...here's a link to my most recent group... a couple of those in the group took ribbons at our last meeting...
2013_Jan_Feb Photos by kat1266 | Photobucket

There are other sub-albums there...if you'd like to check them out, please feel free to do so. Enjoy!

[quiltergal]

Plants are tagged incorrectly all the time. I had a Paph. that was tagged delenatii, when in actuality it was Ho Chi Mihn. I was too new at the hobby to know the difference and some kind soul mentioned it here. It was later confirmed by a local grower I know who specialized in Paphs. I changed the tag. No big deal.

Brooke is correct that your plant would have to be a mericlone or a keiki of the awarded Brother Success 'Laura' to carry the 'Laura' clonal name as well as the award status. As you said, it could be it was tagged by the Taiwanese grower just so they could make more money. Hard to say.

Mericloning is not, without it's faults though. I think some plants have been so over-cloned you begin to loose the quality of the original plant.