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06-05-2010, 12:33 PM
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Huge noid phal: Is this phal. sogo yukidian?
This is my newest purchase. A huge white noid phal that i think is phal. sogo yukidian.
The flower spike is over 1.2m tall with huge flowers measuring up to 14cm. Roots is growing like crazy. I have never seen so many roots growing at the same time, but there is diformities in the two new leave growths. The plant is also about to shoot new flower spike.
My question is the following:
1) Is this phal. sogo yukidian?
2) what cause the leave to deform? is this a disease or caused by other anomalies? the diformed parts feels harder than normal leaves and feel like scar tissue.
3) I am happy to see so many root growth, but is this normal while its flowering? or the grower added too much root hormone?
4) What should I do with the new flower spike? Do I let it grow or cut it to make the current spike last longer?
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06-05-2010, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Autumn Child
This is my newest purchase. A huge white noid phal that i think is phal. sogo yukidian.
The flower spike is over 1.2m tall with huge flowers measuring up to 14cm. Roots is growing like crazy. I have never seen so many roots growing at the same time, but there is diformities in the two new leave growths. The plant is also about to shoot new flower spike.
My question is the following:
1) Is this phal. sogo yukidian?
2) what cause the leave to deform? is this a disease or caused by other anomalies? the diformed parts feels harder than normal leaves and feel like scar tissue.
3) I am happy to see so many root growth, but is this normal while its flowering? or the grower added too much root hormone?
4) What should I do with the new flower spike? Do I let it grow or cut it to make the current spike last longer?
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The leaf anomalies aren't anything to worry about. I have noticed that if my phals grow weird leaves its due to inconsistent conditions or suddenly changed conditions. It would also be malnutrition. My guess is, as you continue to grow this plant under your care, it'll develop uniform leaves that will look perfectly normal.
I wouldn't cut the new spike. After all, this is the point of an orchid. And the plant would not have grown a new spike if it could not handle it. So leave it be!
As for the roots-- its simply a sign of a healthy, vibrant plant. I have a plant that does this every year.
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06-05-2010, 05:49 PM
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I was going to say the same things Ryan mentioned. For the new spike, if the plant wasn't strong enough then it wouldn't have produced it. Besides, the time for it to grow and be ready to bloom is usually around 3 months, and by then the current blooms will likely be gone. If they aren't, then you'll have a super show! A phal growing roots and spikes is a happy phal, so enjoy it.
As for the ID, a Noid is always a Noid unless it's truely unique (easy to identify) or you can get confirmation from the grower on it's ID. So you're will probably remain a pretty enormous white noid!
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06-05-2010, 11:40 PM
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I checked a few sources on the internet about phal cultivation in taiwan. The scar tissue and abnormal leave could and likely be the result of pesticide damage. I picked the plant right after they arrived from the grower and all of the plants have this abnormal new leaves. I wonder what pest they are trying to kill and if they are successful at it.
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09-12-2010, 06:48 PM
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It does very much look like a sogo... stunning! How is this plant doing now?
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09-13-2010, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by camille1585
As for the ID, a Noid is always a Noid unless it's truely unique (easy to identify) or you can get confirmation from the grower on it's ID. So you're will probably remain a pretty enormous white noid!
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That's it. It's not the end of the world to have a NOID phal- that one is spectacular! But without an ID from the grower (hard with the zillions of whites out there), it's a wonderful, well-grown, white NOID.
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09-14-2010, 07:19 AM
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It's gorgeous!
I found some massive white phals like this in the local store labled up as Phal Gigantea but there was no way it was the species gigantea and it looked just like yours. As has been said above, with the mass-market NoID Phals you can never know for sure.
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09-14-2010, 12:32 PM
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This phal has just been repoted to s/h, it is now flowering on its second spike, but not as good as the first spike. Hopefully it will survive winter.
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09-21-2010, 06:17 AM
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By the way, this plant unexpectedly start to produce its third flower spike even after repoting it recently. Amazing...
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06-15-2023, 03:46 PM
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Update
Is it still growing and any new flowers of better quality
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