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Old 09-28-2009, 06:24 PM
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i was trying to find a cutting to make some sort of bonsau / houseplant - but I read that. i cant believe the roots of that passiflora cutting that I struggled with for 2 months or so [even used root hormone from HD to no noticeable effects.

will collect some branches already on the ground chop them blend them and let them sit in water and then use that water for the SH pots
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Old 09-28-2009, 06:24 PM
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I'm a bit confused as to what you did, but I'll try to make sense of it.

1. You trimmed off dead roots.

Okay, don't see anything wrong with that.

2. You accidentally cut off part of the bottom of the Phal's stem.

That's definitely a problem. Sterilize using Listerine. Grab a cotton swab and dab it several times in the wound.

In the future, it's not really necessary to cut that far down the roots.

For me, I just cut as far as I can and leave it alone. Sometimes I leave pieces of dead roots as long as 1/2", because I can't get to the harder to reach places.

3. I'm confused about the moss, now.

I'll come back to this later.

4. You're asking about whether you need rooting hormones and what kind to get.

In my opinion, it's not necessary to get a rooting hormone. Personally, if I were you and I were hellbent on getting rooting hormones, I'd look up Phytotech Labs or any lab that sells to hobbyists, and purchase a group of plant hormones called Auxins. IAA is an example of an Auxin. Auxins are responsible for root growth.

Okay, now back to #3.

Here's one way to help the plant along. I think that if your plant has four roots that are as long as your thumb (approx. 1 1/2" to 2"), it has a good start.

You can:

A. Mount the Phal onto a piece of wood with moss.

or

B. Use a shallow tray (no drain holes necessary), put pumice in there (a 1" to 2" deep layer is enough), and fill it with water (only to the top of the pumice). Then place the Phal on top. Don't allow the tray to dry out at all.

Within a month, you should see the beginnings of new root growth.


Well what I did was cut alot of the stem .All the whitish yellowish roots were toren and mostly black inside. So yes now I only have 4 very small green roots. Where would I be able to find a wooden mount? All the garden centers I called dont carry orchid supplies I called all in my area.

How long can an orchid survive just in a plastic cup with out anything Im trying to order some supplies online but takes 5 days to get here?

Thanks everyone for your help and inputs!
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Old 09-28-2009, 06:45 PM
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I guess I missed something ... is aries plant a phal or another genus? What about the plant's leaves? Is there anything green (and hopeful of surviving) anywhere on the plant?
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I guess I missed something ... is aries plant a phal or another genus? What about the plant's leaves? Is there anything green (and hopeful of surviving) anywhere on the plant?

My orchid is a phal. The orchid has four gorgeous green leaves. I think the s moss just got moldy and kept the roots too wet!

I did order some supplies , so Im relieved now I will def post pictures of her when I find my usb cord
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Old 09-28-2009, 07:21 PM
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I had the strangest thing happen.

I picked some willow tree cut branches from the ground the other day -
want to root them.

I put some willow leaves in some jars where i have been trying to root some stubborn passiflora cuttings...
and today I checked! there were roots in the passiflora cutting that had no roots for so many weeks.

works like a charm...
wonder if I should go pick more branches from the ground let them sit in water and use that water for my some plants i am transferring to SH.

Anyway a bit off topic. I had a beheaded reed steem epidendrum than now is growing roots and keikis along the stem... but also the 1.5 / 2 inch cutting i had mistakenly chopped off is sprouting a new stem from the base!! And I just put it for 2 months in a glass of water....

anyway I think now i will put a couple of leaves of willow tree in all the jars where i am trying to get something to root.
Stefpix,

what kind of willow tree was it that you were trying to root, weeping willow, pussy willow or a whole different kind??
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Old 09-28-2009, 07:33 PM
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My orchid is a phal. The orchid has four gorgeous green leaves. I think the s moss just got moldy and kept the roots too wet!

I did order some supplies , so Im relieved now I will def post pictures of her when I find my usb cord
Most of my plants are vandas that are grown bare-root or on wire hangers or open baskets.

The few phals that I have do quite well in clear plastic slitted pots with new zealand sphagnum moss. I replace the sphag (repot) every twelve to eighteen months. The nice thing about clear plastic is that you can see the roots at all times and nip any problems in the bud.

When watering, I soak the whole pot in tepid water until the bubbles stop; we feed with every watering. Regimen is water every ten to fifteen days, depending on temp, sun or clouds, etc. Occasionally, we have a little problem with algae on the sphagnum but a few drops of clorox in the bath keeps it in check. Pots are also tilted so anywater that gets into the crown runs off.

One way to tell that your phal is doing well - each new leaf is bigger than the one before it.

Good luck with your phal. Post a picture when you can.
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Old 09-29-2009, 01:02 AM
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was a willow tree... read that you need wooden cuttings to propagate this way.

i have some not wooden cuttings i found at the base of he tree..

phal could recover - had some rootless from lowes that now are growing new leaves / new roots.

I find tho phals the most delicate compared to cattleyas, dendrobiums, vandas etc in my experience.
i mounted couple on a coconut husk and the leaves are hanging down like in the wild but I realized this way misting every day is not enough. got to soak them 2 or 3 times a week and mist daily...

I am trying SH now - I think it would be perfect to rescue a damaged phal.
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