My Phal Valentine's Gift is sickly

[kiki-do]

I had two spikes chock full of gorgeous blooms that lasted for months and months. I cut the two spikes back when I was sure it was finished. Two more growths started from those two cut spikes. Then as the new growths were coming on, my leaves started turning yellow and falling off one by one. I have one leaf left and it's yellowing. I repoted and the roots looked good, way back when the blooms had gone by. Any hint of what is happening? I just watered the plant today so that is why it looks wet.

[Bird Song Farm]

Sorry KiKi-do, it looks like a goner. No consolation, I know, but I've had one do this to.
AL

[kiki-do]

Oh Al, I hope you're wrong. The roots looked fine, it's growing new spikes, too. It's not black around the crown. Just the leaves are affected. So what's your thoughts to what it is???? I got this one at Longfellows and I have a year's guarantee, so I will take it back, but it was so beautiful and a gift from my husband....I hate to see it die on me.

[Bird Song Farm]

Frankly I'm not sure what I would do. Let's see what others have to say. Hope I'm wrong too!!
Al

[Lene Th.]

Have you chekced on the root-system recently? Or was this when you first got it/months ago? Roots can develope rot surprisingly fast, and if this is the case, then you have to treat the rot, and try to get some new roots to grow before the hole plant is all gone...

If the roots are still looking fine, then i really dont know what to suggest...

I have had this happen with one of mine chids too... the roots looked fine, but the plant slowly past away anyhow. Sometimes theres just nothing to do, i think...
Still hopes someone more knowledble turnes in.

[kiki-do]

Thank you Lene and Al,
The plant was in moss when I got it and I waited until the blooms were done before repotting, as the blooms were heavy and large, and I wouldn't have been able to repot without damage.
I repotted about one month ago as I was worried about the wetness of the moss, but that is when I saw that the roots were okay. It's in a clear plastic pot and everything looks good. I figured it was because of the medium change, but the yellowing leaves never stopped. I've lost 4 and this is the last leaf. Plus there are two spikes growing more buds out! Honestly, I am at a loss. Thanks for trying to help.

[Lagoon]

I've had this happen a few times with a perfect root systems, Seems the plant just poops out and begins to shed all the leaves.

You don't know what kinda care this 'chid has had before in came home with you.
I just waited it out watered normally and new basal growth started.
Hope she pulls out of it, good luck Kiki

[caseydoll]

I wanted to bump this back up to the top to see if any one else has any suggestions. I'm really interested in finding out what could be wrong. I think that Gloria is right on. I think phals sometime bloom so long that even with a good root system they still poop out.

No one has suggested this yet and I definitely am no expert so I'm not sure you should take my advice! But I would cut those spike right off as far as you can take them. If it has used up too much energy and is shedding leaves as a result putting out buds won't help it any. It seems to me that some of my phals absolutely refuse to put out any new leaves or roots until they stop blooming. Maybe yours is like that and just needs a rest to focus on the leaves. Just a thought and it's really just a guess on my part. Please keep us updated!

[Junebug]

Originally Posted by caseydoll

I wanted to bump this back up to the top to see if any one else has any suggestions. I'm really interested in finding out what could be wrong. I think that Gloria is right on. I think phals sometime bloom so long that even with a good root system they still poop out.

No one has suggested this yet and I definitely am no expert so I'm not sure you should take my advice! But I would cut those spike right off as far as you can take them. If it has used up too much energy and is shedding leaves as a result putting out buds won't help it any. It seems to me that some of my phals absolutely refuse to put out any new leaves or roots until they stop blooming. Maybe yours is like that and just needs a rest to focus on the leaves. Just a thought and it's really just a guess on my part. Please keep us updated!

That's so sad. I agree with Sarah. My rescued Phals blessed me with a long blooming season this year. Some of the bottom leaves looking a little dehydrated and began yellowing so I repotted all of them while still in bloom but towards the end. During potting I snipped a few of the older spikes on a few of the plants all the way off and those plants made a rapid recovery. The plants with spikes remaining started looking even more stressed so I removed their spikes too. This worked like magic. Within days the base leaves rehydrated and all of the plants began displaying new growth. Next year I will cut the spikes all the way down a week or two before it's time to repot even if the blooms are still pretty. It seems to spare the plant when this is done. Oh yeah, there was one Phal I had mounted on cork and placed in a tree. It was blooming at the time and I forgot to cut the spike. It promtly began to rebloom from the same spike but the new leaf growth is stunted and there were only a few blooms produced. I'm cutting that spike off today.

[Ross]

You say this was/is in a clear plastic pot. How do the the roots look? Do you let then get green when watered, then white when dry? Do you see little white pimples on the bark (a sign of rot)? Tell us something we can deal with, please. Cutting off the spike might help if the leaves were shriveled like losing strength. Yellowed leaves is genererally not a good sign - it is a sign the plant is dumping leaves for some reason, usually because it can't support the ones it has. This typically leads to root rot. Check the roots first. If you can see them through the pot so much the better. Then check the medium. Is it pretty wet? If so, back off watering a bit. Let roots get white before you water again. Hope this helps.