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01-23-2019, 11:17 AM
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5000K is closer to natural sunlight and provide a better appearance imo, and all other things being equal would be my choice. Either will grow plants.
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I'm with Subrosa on that one. Let's all remember the question of the OP, with five posts since 2016. Why, oh why, does this Growing Under Lights forum make all the Bill Nyes of the world feel the need to flex their intellectual muscles?
Not trying to be nasty... just... really?
I too grow under lights in the winter and have an occasional question or opinion. I'm afraid to post here.
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01-23-2019, 12:15 PM
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Thanks to everyone for their answers. It is really appreciated.
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01-23-2019, 02:59 PM
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Why, oh why, does this Growing Under Lights forum make all the Bill Nyes of the world feel the need to flex their intellectual muscles?
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I think you're taking the responses incorrectly.
In a forum like this, I - and I hope it applies more broadly - are trying to share what we know and learn the most about our orchid culture so we can do a better job of doing so. If, in that process, we state something that is incorrect, we run the risk of it being "taken as gospel" and promulgated throughout the internet.
Myths like " water causes root rot, " plants don't use the green part of the light spectrum", and " plants produce oxygen, but don't use it" fall in that category. By "flexing our intellectual muscles" and sharing the correct info when we have it, it helps people understand the truth.
As to the OP's query, the correlated color temperature may make a difference in the appearance of the plants, with the 5000°K looking bluer, but in the vast majority of "white" LED's, the 3000°K chips typically are more energy efficient, i.e., more photons out per watt consumed, and that could make a difference to some growers.
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01-23-2019, 04:47 PM
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Sometimes the KISS rule is just appropriate. Just sayin'.
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01-23-2019, 05:22 PM
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Sometimes the KISS rule is just appropriate. Just sayin'.
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IMO, not when the "simple" is incorrect or inaccurate.
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01-23-2019, 06:02 PM
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I think you're taking the responses incorrectly.
In a forum like this, I - and I hope it applies more broadly - are trying to share what we know and learn the most about our orchid culture so we can do a better job of doing so. If, in that process, we state something that is incorrect, we run the risk of it being "taken as gospel" and promulgated throughout the internet.
Myths like "water causes root rot, "plants don't use the green part of the light spectrum", and "plants produce oxygen, but don't use it" fall in that category. By "flexing our intellectual muscles" and sharing the correct info when we have it, it helps people understand the truth.
As to the OP's query, the correlated color temperature may make a difference in the appearance of the plants, with the 5000°K looking bluer, but in the vast majority of "white" LED's, the 3000°K chips typically are more energy efficient, i.e., more photons out per watt consumed, and that could make a difference to some growers.
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I disagree that I'm taking the responses incorrectly. Someone asked a very simple question. And we quickly moved into science land. When one does not think the same way a chemist, scientist, etc, it does tend to confuse the issue.
You may be enlightening the masses, but unless the OP is on the same level, you've just stolen the thread. The masses aren't reading this... the original poster is. Plus me.
Some are capable of understanding all that. Some are not, or don't care to understand. This too has nothing to do with Setter's OP, because he asked a simple question. Deserving of a simple answer. IF he queries further, then have at it. It also means I'm likely just as guilty of stealing the thread. Was attempting to make a point.
For example, a simple The 3K may be cheaper than 5K to run, but the appearance will be different because of blahdeblah may be all the OP needed.
Now, if the OP comes back with the same graphs, correlated vs corrected verbiage... y'all have at it and enjoy. Nexogen started it, rest of ya chimed right in. TMI.
Where was the individual asking the question in all that? Thanks for everyone's answers. They're appreciated.
And I'm truly not trying to pick a fight Ray. Just saying sometimes simple is all someone needs until and unless they go further. Look at the audience prior to a reply. Having said that, we surely have the capability of stirring up an audience.
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01-24-2019, 07:36 AM
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The question was: I'm going to use LED Flood Lights for supplemental lighting during the winter. Does it make any difference if the flood light is 3000K or 5000K?
Every person answers how he knows. You can’t fix a standard of thought.
We are human beings and think, so there are more opinions. Even if some are totally out of the subject.
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01-24-2019, 09:37 AM
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I didn't take anything as a fight. I was thinking you were questioning the motivations folks might have for posting detailed answers.
When I am seeking a "quick and simple" answer to something, I like to see the reasoning that went into it, so I can assess the validity of the answer, instead of just blindly accepting it, but that's just my normal MOA.
I am a firm believer that knowing the "why" behind the "what" makes us better growers, so will continue to respond accordingly. Folks don't have to read it!
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01-24-2019, 04:23 PM
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And I'm fairly certain I should apologize, and do. Yesterday was certainly not one of my better days, and somehow it got taken out on this thread. Whether I thought it or not, it was uncalled for and not helpful to the OP.
Dad always told me if ya don't have anything nice to say...
My apologies.
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01-24-2019, 07:22 PM
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No need! We're all family here, aren't we? (Much more so here than other forums I visit!)
There have been times I've been "in a mood" when responding, too.
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