yes sir!! i was talking to the studio guy around here and he had some 850 T5s he gave me
he tells he likes the flourescents bec they arent so damn hot
he says you need more of them but they are more friendly. apples and carrots but the point is made.
lights with 830's in them at 3000k
I put them in and an 850 is pretty blinding. In fact the light up against the window you cant tell the light from the Real Sun coming thru the frosted glass.
850's at 5000k
865 philips are going to be interesting when I get a few of them to test also.
MH and HID and all the others are way out of line in living/growing area indeed.