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Old 02-09-2012, 06:04 AM
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Keith and David,
Many thanks, I had not seen these before. Measuring and transmitting does not seem to be my stumbling block, but my biggest difficulty is getting information from the sensors into my home 100 metres away and through thick solid walls. It is that which I have not yet been able to crack.
Both devices you have highlighted are most interesting. I shall enquire further.
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Use a bridge router or two and run DD-wrp. I run it on a linksys N dual band and can get a signal on my iPad about 450 ft away(guessiment) to my mail box.

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Use a bridge router or two and run DD-wrp. I run it on a linksys N dual band and can get a signal on my iPad about 450 ft away(guessiment) to my mail box.
Care to explain that in layman's terms?
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I tried to post a link from phone but not working... I'll post it tonight[
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Hope this will help....
You can have a wifi off your bridge router to your device(weather station in this case)

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So if my "sensors" - whatever they may be - can connect to ethernet, I can simply have the wireless bridge connect to my home network?
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Yes, and then whatever apps you want to monitor them. Cacti and Nagios are good open source toys for that sort of thing, particularly if the devices you're connecting speak SNMP.
This can be anything from as basic as webcam-looking-at-sensors that you have to keep an eye on to full monitoring, graphing and SMS/email alerts, depending on the toys you have to hand.

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p.s. note that having an 8P8C connector (RJ45) doens't necessarily mean plugging it into an Ethernet network will work - there are devices that use these connectors without the ability to "speak" ethernet, and even use Ethernet cable as wires.

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DD-WRT is an open source router software (firmware really) package that can turn compatible home routers into much more powerful devices. Some will even let you use USB/serial pins on the board of the router for Interesting Things.

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essentially, a wireless bridge can be thought of as a piece of ethernet cable running between your GH and House, carrying any ethernet traffic from your house to the GH and vice-versa. In some cases, running a routed (rather than bridged) network is better, but it depends on the application; bridged networks are more intuitive for most home users (because devices plugged into them behave as if you were plugging them into a switch/hub, and don't generally require as much configuration). If you go for a routed wireless link, you have to understand a bit about routing and how to get your devices to talk to each other before it will work; a fuller discussion of this is rather off topic, but I can go into it if anyone wants - with some concrete hypothetical devices, I can probably even suggest the configuration.

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Hypothetically (and assuming line-of-sight), using the right radios and antennae, you can have links over kilometers (handy if your greenhouse(s) are far away), whereas physical Ethernet (copper) wiring is limited to 100m; some kinds of fiber can go considerably further than 100m, and it provides isolation from lighting and other interesting potential difference effects which may manifest between your GH and house if you run wires (as of course does radio).

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Finally, if wireless networking interests you, the E-book available from Wireless Networking in the Developing World tells you more than you will ever need to know!
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So if my "sensors" - whatever they may be - can connect to ethernet, I can simply have the wireless bridge connect to my home network?
Yes or add a repeater depending on how far you have to go..... A bridge allows you to connect a ethernet device and turn that signal into wifi to transmit it to your home network wirelessly.

Just remember that the more you turn up the signal on your router the more heat is made by the router and it can over heat and kill your router..... I have removed the sides on my router.
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I'm not particularly interested in modifications, as I don't have the time. Any recommendations for off-the-shelf components?
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Bridge routers are an off the shelf idem.... There were companies that make long range routers also.... You just have to pony up!!!
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Just to add most new router have the capabilities in the factory firmware to be repeaters. So, you don't need to use DD-WRT but it super easy to install.
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