I have had my Den. Love Memory Fizz going on 4 years now. It's a reliable bloomer. I keep reading that all the leaves are supposed to fall off eventually and i should end up with bare canes. However this is not the case for me. Apart from the odd leaf yellowing and falling of from time to time, my plants keep their leaves. I thought that maybe my nobile was some strange exception. But since that plant, i have purchased more dens. NONE of them are losing their leaves. As far as i know they are all the deciduous kind. Am i doing something wrong?