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Old 06-29-2014, 06:53 PM
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So earlier this year (end of feb) i visited orchids limited in plymouth, MN where i bought this kingianum. (As well as a stanhopea n.violacea and a phal. Schilleriana)

The flowers dropped ot about a month after buying it and now it has put out quite a few new canes. You can see in the pic how it leans more to the right, those are a few of the new ones that have developed.

Does this one lookvnormal like to you guys? Im not saying there is anything wrong, just that a few vids and pics of other kingianums that i've seen look more. . . bigger and upright and the canes look brown rather than the green that mine looks like.

Also can anyone explain the growth cycle? I understand that they need a winter rest with very little to no watering, but what about everything else after that? When do you repot it? How do you destinguish a spike from a keiki or even a new leaf?
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Old 06-29-2014, 09:44 PM
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I love kingianum of any color, but white blooms on a large specimen is quite the sight!!! and their fragrance!


Yes, yours look very much normal to me.
Yours came with flowers, so it is normal.
They come in many different sizes. Some are short and some are taller than others, but most of them do not grow that tall anyways.

Newer leaves are usually lighter green and as they mature, they turn darker green, given that of course, it gets enough light.

These plants need a lot of light, so give it all the light you can short of burning.

The upright growth of pretty much any plants is due to the fact that they are grown outdoor, greenhouse, or light setup. Windowsill growing, as nice as it is, usually results in plants growing side ways of some degree. It does not harm the plants of course, just a bit odd look.

You are right that these plants need winter rest. Many people will tell you no water the entire winter, but it is not the way if you want healthy plants.
Sure, they will survive such drought, but not needed nor necessary.

Chilling is more necessary than no watering as the winter chilling is what helps theses guys set spikes.
When kept quite dry, these plants can stand near freezing. You don't need that kind of extremem cold, but they do need quite cold winter to bloom profusely in the spring.
Too warm, they won't bloom but keep on growing and growing.

Water a lot while it is growing now.
Reduce water once the current growths mature in the fall, then reduce further during the winter rest.
If you see canes slightly wrinkle, give it a good drenching. Then wait until the potting mix is completely dry again. This can be about every two weeks or more depending on how cold and how dry your winter growing condition is.

Happy Growing!
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Old 06-29-2014, 09:56 PM
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The canes are reaching towards the light.

I do not give mine a water or fertilizer rest. I do allow it to get slight dry in-between waterings in winter. It grows outside year-round, so gets very cool temps.
It blooms spectacularly! (Around 75 spikes this spring!)
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California will be the place to grow these outdoor year around.

You are wise not to dry them to death during the winter, Sonya!

---------- Post added at 09:02 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:58 PM ----------

By the way, some more info in response to the original post, these plants grow during the warmer months and then rest (as in not growing) from fall to spring, when it blooms and then repeat the cycle again.

Keikis will grow out from the top of the cane and on the side of the cane.
These will grow like wildfire when good conditions are met, and bloom like crazy like the great example of Sonya's plant.

You can repot when the plant fill the pot and have no more space to go, or when the potting mix gets too old.

Ask Sonya!
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Yes this does great outside here! I do allow it to be dry-ish during periods when night temps may get down to freezing - usually, spikes are growing in winter, so I put it in the garage if there's chance of freeze.
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I have about 10 different kingianum clones. The shortest sets canes 2-3" tall, and the tallest is about 12".

I moved my plants outdoors (Hunterdon County, NJ) om June first. They spent 7 days under shade cloth, which then came off so they are now in full sun, together with Den delicatum, Den speciosum & all my 'Aussie' hybrids. My reed stem Epis and my lone Den phalaenopsis hybrid are on that table too.

I water heavily twice a week. So far no burns, despite plant rack facing directly South. I plan to bring Epis in by mid/late October, but all the Aussie Dendrobiums will stay out till they predict first frost.

BTW, we give the Cymbidiums the same treatment (full sun).
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The canes are reaching towards the light.

I do not give mine a water or fertilizer rest. I do allow it to get slight dry in-between waterings in winter. It grows outside year-round, so gets very cool temps.
It blooms spectacularly! (Around 75 spikes this spring!)
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WOW, WOW, WOW. Thats just. . . Wow. *jaw drop*
Now i cant wait to see mine get to that point.

Im jealous that you live in california, great weather conditions out there for just about anything.
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You plant looks great! I have some Dendrobium kingianum keiki's that a friend gave me when I visited her greenhouse. I wonder if I am growing them correctly? I have this half pot that I hang in a fairly sunny place.
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I have been watering it everyday because the canes look a little bit shriveled, but they don't seem to be swelling at all. I did notice it has new growth reaching towards the light.
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I have about 10 different kingianum clones. The shortest sets canes 2-3" tall, and the tallest is about 12".

I moved my plants outdoors (Hunterdon County, NJ) om June first. They spent 7 days under shade cloth, which then came off so they are now in full sun, together with Den delicatum, Den speciosum & all my 'Aussie' hybrids. My reed stem Epis and my lone Den phalaenopsis hybrid are on that table too.

I water heavily twice a week. So far no burns, despite plant rack facing directly South. I plan to bring Epis in by mid/late October, but all the Aussie Dendrobiums will stay out till they predict first frost.

BTW, we give the Cymbidiums the same treatment (full sun).

How did you deal with the crazy winter this last year? I mean, i understand that you take in your orchids, but it seems like the winter was just to crazy and cold that even in a house/greenhouse plants would be damaged somehow.
I know at one point (in watertown, SD) it got down to about -55° and a a phal i had near the window lost almost all of its leaves.

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Czayta correct me if im wrong, but i dont think the canes plump up again as they get watered. I think theyre like an oncidium where the old canes (like old pseudobulbs) act as a reserve to provide nutrients and 'life support' for new growths. But unlike an oncidium the old canes can still produce a spike and bloom.

Actually, thats another question to whomever can answer, CAN they bloom off old canes like most dendrobiums? I dont want to give any incorrect information.
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Czayta correct me if im wrong, but i dont think the canes plump up again as they get watered. I think theyre like an oncidium where the old canes (like old pseudobulbs) act as a reserve to provide nutrients and 'life support' for new growths. But unlike an oncidium the old canes can still produce a spike and bloom.

Actually, thats another question to whomever can answer, CAN they bloom off old canes like most dendrobiums? I dont want to give any incorrect information.
I'm not sure if the old growths are capable of re-flowering either. But new growth has definitely appeared off of the old canes.
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