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Old 06-10-2014, 04:30 PM
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I think Hiester is mistaken here.

Nobile type dendrobiums do not bloom from the previously bloomed canes, with the exception that if the previous bloom was poor, meaning not all the nodes spiked, then those nodes that did not flower last year may or may not spike and bloom the following year.
With proper winter chilling, these usually bloom abundantly from top to bottom of the entire canes.
When this is the case, the old cane will not bloom again simply because all the available spots were taken and gone.

Now your plant is starting to grow.
I don't think mounting is the best way to go to grow this unless you are going to soak the plant everyday.
Misting everyday is what you should do while it is "resting".

I grow mine in either large chunky orchiata or clay pebbles in plastic pots.
During the summer when they are growing like crazy, I soak them for good watering every time I water them.
twice a week at least.

Old canes will eventually dry up and die, but this can take many many years. Leave them alone because they support the entire plant in good ways.

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Old 06-10-2014, 04:33 PM
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It gets sprayed every morning and evening. I will begin dunking it daily if that would be better.
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Old 06-10-2014, 04:38 PM
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Misting barely wet the roots and it is nowhere near what the plant in active growth needs for proper growths.

These plants grow fast during hot seasons and then rest.
They are tough and will not die for underwatering, but it will invite all kinds of issues beginning mites, and stunted growths, which means shorter and smaller canes, which translates into less flowers the following season.

Grow as big as they can for best health and flowering.

I love these. They are like bamboo shoots! I love to see them grow so fast and getting all fattened up, which is what all of mine are doing.

Growing indoor, these guys are always way ahead of the "supposed" growth schedule.

Remember that these (ok, maybe not these since they are hybrids, but things that make these) are subject to subtropical summer monsoon almost everyday during their active growth, plus of course early morning dew, which is basically all throughout the year.

Water water water! more water! then you will see what I mean.

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This was my problem child last year....so i will start dunking each morning and see if it will start to pick up more. It is really picking up the growing in the last 2 weeks with all the small growths beginning to come in. So fingers crossed it will do okay. If not back to a pot it will go.
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Old 06-10-2014, 05:00 PM
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What trouble did you have with it??
It should easy plants to deal with as long as strong light and ample water are given.

They follow distinct cycle, so they want to grow as much as they can before the cool and drier season comes. It's their nature, so now is the time to water like crazy and expose them to bright light.
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Old 06-10-2014, 05:27 PM
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NYCom, You very well might be right. I was speaking from experience, growing on the windowsill supplemented with lights, and no doubt this might cause some flower spikes to remain dormant and not bloom at the same time, or in the same season, as the majority.

I've always left the old canes until they were completely withered and brown, then snipped them off very near the base of the plant.

I think some growers have success getting new plants from old removed canes laid in moist media, but I have never tried this. Seems it would take away live canes that could still benefit the mother plants, so I don't mess with it. I have had keikis sometimes, which I have left on the plants until they looked like they could be taken off life support and survive on their own roots.
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It never stayed in its pot. Then I am not sure what happened because no.matter how much i watered it it still became dehydrated looking with the yellow rings around the cane. It had bright light and i watered constantly it was so hot here last year. I almost used duct tape to try and keep it from falling out of its pot again. Then i lost one cane to my Nana's Corgi who decided ew a new stick and took off with the young cane that came with this one. I just could not make it happy no matter how hard I tried. I had it in den mix from better gro in a net pot sitting in my windowsill that gets all day light and setting sun BRIGHT light...its now mounted and gets the same bright light as my b. Little star.
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NYCom, You very well might be right. I was speaking from experience, growing on the windowsill supplemented with lights, and no doubt this might cause some flower spikes to remain dormant and not bloom at the same time, or in the same season, as the majority.

I've always left the old canes until they were completely withered and brown, then snipped them off very near the base of the plant.

I think some growers have success getting new plants from old removed canes laid in moist media, but I have never tried this. Seems it would take away live canes that could still benefit the mother plants, so I don't mess with it. I have had keikis sometimes, which I have left on the plants until they looked like they could be taken off life support and survive on their own roots.
I leave old canes on, but so far ( 5years!) my oldest dendrobium nobile hybrid has not lost a single cane. All the old canes are bare but still light green and plump.

By the way, if you wish to propagate by cutting the canes into segments, you MUST use unbloomed canes because each node on the canes either makes bloom spike or keikis.

For best results, select a full grown cane from the last season (thus fully mature) which is healthy and plump. and of course unbloomed.

As you mentioned, some plants seem to produce keikis more readily than others, and while I have read others say it is due to poor culture, I find it more of individual plant thing as I grow mine all the same way but only one is a crazy keiki producer and none others make keikis even when the canes are not fully covered with flowers.

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It never stayed in its pot. Then I am not sure what happened because no.matter how much i watered it it still became dehydrated looking with the yellow rings around the cane. It had bright light and i watered constantly it was so hot here last year. I almost used duct tape to try and keep it from falling out of its pot again. Then i lost one cane to my Nana's Corgi who decided ew a new stick and took off with the young cane that came with this one. I just could not make it happy no matter how hard I tried. I had it in den mix from better gro in a net pot sitting in my windowsill that gets all day light and setting sun BRIGHT light...its now mounted and gets the same bright light as my b. Little star.
Was it wobbly in the pot? that is bad because roots have hard time (if at all) establishing themselves if wobbly.

These are all plants, so staking is very helpful until the roots take a strong hold into the new pot. Even then it can be top heavy, so I usually keep all my dendrobium nobile hybrids slid in either clay pot or decorative pot for stability.

This is why it is best to pot the plant at the first onset of root growth in the spring because they usually make tons of roots and it is just so much easier for them to establish themselves in the new pots this way.
Even then, you want to be extra careful when watering not to bother them much.
For indoor growers like me, who moves pots to the bathtub or sink to water plants, this is important, but for those lucky people who can leave their pots in place and just poor water over the plants, it is less of a problem of course.

The heat and bright light are not problems for these plants. They actually need that during the active growth cycle. Just make sure they get lots of water and air movement when super hot.
Mine all grow with Brassavola nodosa and B. Little Star in the full sun as well.
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