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Old 02-26-2013, 01:38 PM
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Beautiful blooms! I just started growing these last fall. Hopefully they will look like yours one day.
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Old 02-26-2013, 01:54 PM
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Wow, stunning!

Interesting about how you keep it because I've just had my first winter with two of these I received as gifts last spring. You stop fertilizer a lot earlier than I would have thought. I went through to October, which is probably why mine didn't stop growing properly over the winter. I'll have to remember that for next year.

How much do you water over the dormant period. I've still not sussed out if I'm meant to water at all, or if I'm meant to just reduce watering. I reduced watering drastically, but still put the occasional small amount of rain water on them.
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Old 02-26-2013, 05:39 PM
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Wow, stunning!

Interesting about how you keep it because I've just had my first winter with two of these I received as gifts last spring. You stop fertilizer a lot earlier than I would have thought. I went through to October, which is probably why mine didn't stop growing properly over the winter. I'll have to remember that for next year.

How much do you water over the dormant period. I've still not sussed out if I'm meant to water at all, or if I'm meant to just reduce watering. I reduced watering drastically, but still put the occasional small amount of rain water on them.
It is recommended that any fertilizing (especially nitrogen) be completely withheld no later than when the cane matures (that littl knob looking thing on top with no more leaf on). Earlier isn't bad but later is.
As some fertilizer most likely be still present in the mix, earlier hault is probably safer.
I stop fertilizing my nobiles in July or August which is when mine normally nears the end of growing phase.

During the dormant, do not allow plants go bone dry as this is bad unlike many people faithfully believe.
Since they are not growing during this time, they dont' take much water but they still need water to stay alive and for preparation of buds and all.
How cool you keep nobiles during the dormant period decided how you want to water them.
Main focus is to prevent root rots but keep the plants sufficiently hydrated.
I used to keep all mine at a friend's unheated south facing sun room. It gets pretty cold but never freezing at night. During the day, it gets pretty warm (almost hot) on sunny winter days but when there's overcast, not so warm.
I would water accordinly to the weather. You don't want to keep your plants too wet during cold time.
I would follow weather news and water (or soak) early morning of sunny days (about once week or so)
If weather continued on to be quite cold even during the day, then I would not water or if plants are too dry and pots feel too light, I would just mist like crazy!
You may err on the slightly drier side than wetter side to avoid possible rot.
I haven't rot any and all flowered like fabulous little (some not so little) bunch of bouquet!

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PAM- Did this gift come with a name tag by chance?
I'm just curious.

I love your setting, the vase complements the blossom nicely I think.
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Old 02-26-2013, 06:29 PM
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It is recommended that any fertilizing (especially nitrogen) be completely withheld no later than when the cane matures (that littl knob looking thing on top with no more leaf on). Earlier isn't bad but later is.
As some fertilizer most likely be still present in the mix, earlier hault is probably safer.
I stop fertilizing my nobiles in July or August which is when mine normally nears the end of growing phase.

During the dormant, do not allow plants go bone dry as this is bad unlike many people faithfully believe.
Since they are not growing during this time, they dont' take much water but they still need water to stay alive and for preparation of buds and all.
How cool you keep nobiles during the dormant period decided how you want to water them.
Main focus is to prevent root rots but keep the plants sufficiently hydrated.
I used to keep all mine at a friend's unheated south facing sun room. It gets pretty cold but never freezing at night. During the day, it gets pretty warm (almost hot) on sunny winter days but when there's overcast, not so warm.
I would water accordinly to the weather. You don't want to keep your plants too wet during cold time.
I would follow weather news and water (or soak) early morning of sunny days (about once week or so)
If weather continued on to be quite cold even during the day, then I would not water or if plants are too dry and pots feel too light, I would just mist like crazy!
You may err on the slightly drier side than wetter side to avoid possible rot.
I haven't rot any and all flowered like fabulous little (some not so little) bunch of bouquet!

---------- Post added at 04:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:38 PM ----------

PAM- Did this gift come with a name tag by chance?
I'm just curious.

I love your setting, the vase complements the blossom nicely I think.
Hi,
Thank you for adding the information. The tag just said dendrobium nobile I think the plant came from Denmark. Yes I love my pot it is in.
Pam.
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Old 02-26-2013, 06:38 PM
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Gorgeous plant - phenom display. You have all the right steps down obviously. Has it bloomed like this in the past?
My Orchid Mentor had tons of Den. nobile - he ordered from Hawaii - Yamamoto Orchids. He visited there a couple of times and in order to get theirs to bloom, they would move them into caves for a couple of months for the temp drop - at the time they had "handlers" that did all the moving. Two people would have two bamboo stalks on their shoulders with 50 + orchids hanging from them and would move them in and out of the caves as needed to keep a revolving cycle of budded plants available. His pics were great to view. Thanks for bringing back some cool memories.
Also, Thanks for sharing - we all love a blooming orchid!
Steve
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Old 02-26-2013, 06:53 PM
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Wow, stunning!

Interesting about how you keep it because I've just had my first winter with two of these I received as gifts last spring. You stop fertilizer a lot earlier than I would have thought. I went through to October, which is probably why mine didn't stop growing properly over the winter. I'll have to remember that for next year.

How much do you water over the dormant period. I've still not sussed out if I'm meant to water at all, or if I'm meant to just reduce watering. I reduced watering drastically, but still put the occasional small amount of rain water on them.
Hi Rosie,
At the end of winter I put it in my conservatory it gets a little water gets really quite dry and the temp gets down to 40 degrees f. Around Feb it usually shows a couple of buds then I start to feed it and I get this show. Hope this helps.
Pam.

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Gorgeous plant - phenom display. You have all the right steps down obviously. Has it bloomed like this in the past?
My Orchid Mentor had tons of Den. nobile - he ordered from Hawaii - Yamamoto Orchids. He visited there a couple of times and in order to get theirs to bloom, they would move them into caves for a couple of months for the temp drop - at the time they had "handlers" that did all the moving. Two people would have two bamboo stalks on their shoulders with 50 + orchids hanging from them and would move them in and out of the caves as needed to keep a revolving cycle of budded plants available. His pics were great to view. Thanks for bringing back some cool memories.
Also, Thanks for sharing - we all love a blooming orchid!
Steve
Hi Steve,
Thank you for your comments. Glad it has brought back memories. Yes it has bloomed like this before I dont have a cave but I must be doing something to please it. I do leave it in my conservatory which is cold in the winter and I do think that the drop in temperature helps and it gets quite dry at this time.
Pam.
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Old 02-26-2013, 08:36 PM
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monet:
I have grown these in the past, and could not get the buds to form. I was able to do everything but give them the consistent drop in temperature for the extended period needed to get the bud formation.
If you have never seen Yamamoto's website - take a gander at these beauties -
Retail Plants
They only sell Dendrobium nobile varieties and have a huge standing in this market.
Enjoy the pics!
Steve

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By the way - is this the only nibile you have?
Steve
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Old 02-27-2013, 06:14 AM
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monet:
I have grown these in the past, and could not get the buds to form. I was able to do everything but give them the consistent drop in temperature for the extended period needed to get the bud formation.
If you have never seen Yamamoto's website - take a gander at these beauties -
Retail Plants
They only sell Dendrobium nobile varieties and have a huge standing in this market.
Enjoy the pics!
Steve

---------- Post added at 07:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:58 PM ----------

By the way - is this the only nibile you have?
Steve
Hi Steve,
WOW just wonderful picsThank you fancy living with those blooms around you, you could never be sad. Yes this is the only one I have I have grown a vanda and am now trying a couple of catts. I have only grown orchids for about 4 years love a challenge. I would like to buy a oriental smile fantasy but dont know if it is available in the U.K. I think the drop in temperature does cause them to flower not a problem in the U.K.
Pam.
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Old 02-27-2013, 11:16 AM
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It is recommended that any fertilizing (especially nitrogen) be completely withheld no later than when the cane matures (that littl knob looking thing on top with no more leaf on). Earlier isn't bad but later is.
As some fertilizer most likely be still present in the mix, earlier hault is probably safer.
I stop fertilizing my nobiles in July or August which is when mine normally nears the end of growing phase.
Ah, you see that's where I had a problem, mine were still not showing as mature canes even in December. Someone else said they had the same problem this year, can't remember who now. They finally seemed to mature only in late December. Probably because I forced them too by cooling off in the greenhouse, not watering and not fertilizing.

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During the dormant, do not allow plants go bone dry as this is bad unlike many people faithfully believe.
Since they are not growing during this time, they dont' take much water but they still need water to stay alive and for preparation of buds and all.
Thanks, that's good to know. When do you start them as actually dormant, is that later than the July sort of date, or do you count them as dormant as soon as you stop fertilising. A former OB member used to say to me Halloween to Valentines was her rough guide for orchids in general to have a dormant period. Is that similar for these do you think?

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How cool you keep nobiles during the dormant period decided how you want to water them.
Main focus is to prevent root rots but keep the plants sufficiently hydrated.
I used to keep all mine at a friend's unheated south facing sun room. It gets pretty cold but never freezing at night. During the day, it gets pretty warm (almost hot) on sunny winter days but when there's overcast, not so warm.
I would water accordinly to the weather. You don't want to keep your plants too wet during cold time.
I would follow weather news and water (or soak) early morning of sunny days (about once week or so)
If weather continued on to be quite cold even during the day, then I would not water or if plants are too dry and pots feel too light, I would just mist like crazy!
You may err on the slightly drier side than wetter side to avoid possible rot.
I haven't rot any and all flowered like fabulous little (some not so little) bunch of bouquet! [COLOR="Silver"]
Thanks again, I do try and water based on how they seem to be drying rather than a fixed schedule.

Thanks for all your advice. Hopefully I can keep them alive until next year to be able to follow it
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Old 02-27-2013, 01:26 PM
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monet:
If you go back to the website I listed, drop down on the main page, you will see a section listed as Global Production - they ship all over the world and have a distributor in Europe - forgot where, but they do have distribution points everywhere - their prices have always been pretty reasonable to me - about 35.00 US for a blooming size plant and shipping. Not sure about costs to England, but whip them off an email and see - they have perhaps the leading line of nobiles in the world. I have ordered from the years ago and their packaging for shipping was top rate!
Glad you enjoyed the site!
Steve
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