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04-24-2012, 01:45 PM
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Aww - really? I was a bit apprehensive about them, but the few I have have done very well for me. Any idea what might be the issue? They do have very long lasting blooms which is always nice!
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How do you treat them? I grow them with my Catasetinae, but with continuous watering the whole year. Watering them just aft the medium looks dry. They grow like weed!
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I grow mine right next to my Catasetinae and they get the same conditions, but for some reason the old bulbs turn yellow/brown and the new growths get smaller with time until the plant finally just dies. I've tried with different types of media, but the result is always the same. To make it even more frustrating, this would happen to me in Hawaii when I lived only 30 minutes away from H&R!!
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04-24-2012, 03:08 PM
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Hey Sonya,
Is this den a cool grower? i.e. can withstand cal winters?
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04-24-2012, 03:25 PM
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I grow mine right next to my Catasetinae and they get the same conditions, but for some reason the old bulbs turn yellow/brown and the new growths get smaller with time until the plant finally just dies. I've tried with different types of media, but the result is always the same. To make it even more frustrating, this would happen to me in Hawaii when I lived only 30 minutes away from H&R!!
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hmm - these do like to be moist, but maybe too much water? :scratchead: My atroviolaceum, which had previously done well, was going downhill last year after blooming, I repotted it (from clay to plastic pot) the repot seemed to do it good at first, but then it again began going downhill, and I think over winter I over watered (needing less watering in the plastic pot as compared to clay) - it's doing better now, and has even given me a few buds.
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04-24-2012, 03:38 PM
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Hey Sonya,
Is this den a cool grower? i.e. can withstand cal winters?
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I think these are intermediate growers - I haven't tried it outside during winter, but do keep my home quite cool in winter (53 overnight, low 60s days, evening - unless weather is just warmer and makes my home warmer) - and as you can see, those temps don't bother it at all. I don't know about much lower than that.
The winter daytime temps outside should be fine, but I don't know about overnight low temps. (where I am, we're typically low-mid 40s, some upper 30s, very occasionally mid-low 30s)
Ok, I'm checking IOSPE - aberrans is a cool-warm grower, but atroviolaceum is warm-hot. (hmm, could be why my atroviolaceum had trouble this winter, tho, previous years, it has been fine, so )
The Aussie Chip growth and blooms seem to take after aberrans more than atroviolaceum - so maybe it will also take the cooler temps as well ?
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04-24-2012, 05:12 PM
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I think these are intermediate growers - I haven't tried it outside during winter, but do keep my home quite cool in winter (53 overnight, low 60s days, evening - unless weather is just warmer and makes my home warmer) - and as you can see, those temps don't bother it at all. I don't know about much lower than that.
The winter daytime temps outside should be fine, but I don't know about overnight low temps. (where I am, we're typically low-mid 40s, some upper 30s, very occasionally mid-low 30s)
Ok, I'm checking IOSPE - aberrans is a cool-warm grower, but atroviolaceum is warm-hot. (hmm, could be why my atroviolaceum had trouble this winter, tho, previous years, it has been fine, so )
The Aussie Chip growth and blooms seem to take after aberrans more than atroviolaceum - so maybe it will also take the cooler temps as well ?
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Thanks for the info. I am gonna put this one on my want list and try it outdoors down here in So.Cal.
Your beautiful flowers inspired me!
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04-24-2012, 09:58 PM
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hmm - these do like to be moist, but maybe too much water? :scratchead: My atroviolaceum, which had previously done well, was going downhill last year after blooming, I repotted it (from clay to plastic pot) the repot seemed to do it good at first, but then it again began going downhill, and I think over winter I over watered (needing less watering in the plastic pot as compared to clay) - it's doing better now, and has even given me a few buds.
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Hmmmm, maybe I needed to switch them to clay. Oh well, I think I'll just enjoy yours from afar for a few years!! lol Maybe I'll try again then.
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04-24-2012, 10:03 PM
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Thanks for the info. I am gonna put this one on my want list and try it outdoors down here in So.Cal.
Your beautiful flowers inspired me!
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awesome!
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04-24-2012, 10:06 PM
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Hmmmm, maybe I needed to switch them to clay. Oh well, I think I'll just enjoy yours from afar for a few years!! lol Maybe I'll try again then.
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I've had my bigger Latouria Den in a plastic pot, and moved this one to plastic from clay last fall, and those both have been ok. I do have them potted in just pumice and perlite, so harder to overwater, tho I'm sure it can be done, especially during cool, damp weather.
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04-24-2012, 10:18 PM
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I thought I wanted one of those, but looking at the spread of your beautiful big plant, I'm not so sure anymore.
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04-24-2012, 10:29 PM
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I thought I wanted one of those, but looking at the spread of your beautiful big plant, I'm not so sure anymore.
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hehe - well, it isn't that big - but it is rather bushy for my narrow windowsills - of course, it can always be divided
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