Dendrobium aggregatum in bloom.

[quiltergal]

Great job growing this one Rolando! It's awesome!

[got ants]

Originally Posted by goodgollymissmolly

nom. illeg. means nomen illegitimum or in English, illegitimate name, i.e., one not in accordance with the rules of ICBN.

aggregatum was described in 1832. In 1840, lindleyi was described and seemingly because aggregatum was known to be illegitimate.

I guess it proves that news does not necessarily travel like wildfire since the name aggregatum is widely used today. Wrongly, but widely.

I could be wrong but I see a difference in between my Den aggregatun var Majus and Den lindleyi. and yet a smaller version Den jenkinsii, making it three different species (or sub species).

[goodgollymissmolly]

I wasn't intending to start a debate. I was just passing along the accepted name for the aggregatum.

Den jenkinsii is a different species which resembles D lindleyi and comes from the same general geography. It is, however, a separate species.

Den lindleyi var majus isn't actually a name. It is only a horticultural variety which is not described and thus doesn't exist separately from lindleyi. It should be written Den lindleyi (hv. majus) if you want to refer to it. Officially it is Den lindleyi.

I suggest you refer to the KEW Monocot Checklist if you want to verify these issues for yourself.

[RosieC]

Gorgeous flower. Just love this one.

[got ants]

Originally Posted by goodgollymissmolly

I wasn't intending to start a debate. I was just passing along the accepted name for the aggregatum.

Den jenkinsii is a different species which resembles D lindleyi and comes from the same general geography. It is, however, a separate species.

Den lindleyi var majus isn't actually a name. It is only a horticultural variety which is not described and thus doesn't exist separately from lindleyi. It should be written Den lindleyi (hv. majus) if you want to refer to it. Officially it is Den lindleyi.

I suggest you refer to the KEW Monocot Checklist if you want to verify these issues for yourself.

GGMM,

While you may be entirely correct, it's just the same as denying Pluto as a planet. At the Redlands Orchid Festival, I saw probably 20 of the 60+ vendors selling Den. Aggregatum, and not a single listing of lindeyi.

Some call the sea blue, some call it sea green. I see it as aqua....

(BTW, I love how you say you don't want to argue, but then agree it can be Den Lin hv. Majus....lol)

[RosieC]

I was interested by GoodGollyMissMolly's comments, not so much in relation to this orchid, but because they led me to the existance of the 'World Checklist of Monocotyledons'

I have previously used the RHS grex search for hybrids, but have not been able to confirm if an orchid name I have seen is a species or not (If it's not in the hybrid register it may be a species or it may be a trade name and unregistered).

Anyway this checklist has all orchid species registered (as well as many other plant types) and it tells you what the accepted name is.

I can confirm from that database that this orchid is officially called lindleyi... but I tend to think that if most people call it aggregatum then more people will know what you mean if you use that name.

Anyway here is the link relating to aggregatun.
Dendrobium aggregatum Roxb., Fl. Ind. ed. 1832, 3: 477 (1832), nom. illeg.

[ewcia1028]

Very nice,congrats! I have one and the name is the same like yours aggregatum!

[goodgollymissmolly]

"(BTW, I love how you say you don't want to argue, but then agree it can be Den Lin hv. Majus....lol)"

Well,since I did not say that, I guess I'm not arguing. If you want to criticize what I said at least repeat it correctly.

I said you could refer to it as Den lindleyi (hv. majus). Note the parenthetical expression. The hv stands for horticultural variety and the parentheses separate it from a proper botanical name. Also note the lack of italics for the hv majus portion also indicating it is a garden name (or horticultural name) not a botanical name.

"....20 of the 60+ vendors selling Den. Aggregatum, and not a single listing of lindeyi."

Duh! Wrong is wrong no matter how many people use it. Also you might know that even in the wrong name that you should not capitalize the species epithet. I really don't care what you call it. I was just trying to help those who want to be correct. Sorry that correct offends you.

[Izzie]

Is it true that these sometimes smell like honey?

[Lorraine]

Nice growing Roly. I like the mount you have it on. Mine bloomed the end of April. Is yours still blooming?