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12-08-2015, 04:35 PM
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Paph care generalization?
Hello, my friends
Is it safe to say that paphs with mottled leaves in general have the same requirements and those with green leaves have, in general, the same requirements?
I'm asking this because today I've found in the supermarket lots of Lady Slippers for sale, which is not common...I had never seen them before for sale in these stores.
They looked like insignes but I'm not sure. But I noticed the leaves, were not mottled but they look like phal leaves, a litle bit more streched and longer. So, I'm assuming they are the cool type paphs.
If this is the sace, I can find a place for it, if it's the warm type, I'm running out of space.
So far, I've resisted this buy but my mind keeps telling me "Come on, it's just one more!"
And the other side says: "No, you have no space. Better post something in OB about it, maybe you'll forget it."
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12-08-2015, 04:49 PM
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Do you mean the flowers looked like insignes? The paph people here can figure it out from the flower photo.
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12-08-2015, 06:40 PM
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In general as far as I know, mottled leaf paphs require less light than streight strappy green leaf ones. I have a bulldog and it is intermediate, and no mottling. It has done well in window light. A low light paph, seems to me, could be either in the window of a bit father away, say, on a table a few feet from the window.
Phals really kick in when you give them a bit over what you think is right, and their leaves start turning colors a bit. In my humble experience, when you give a plant as much light as you can without burning it, you get really good growth.
Sunshine and water create growth. Too little sun, no growth, to little water, no growth. Too much sun, burn spots , possible mortality, too much water, roots ruined, starvation, death.
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12-08-2015, 09:03 PM
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A Paph grower once advised me to give mottled leaved Paphs as much light as strapped leaved ones - so, I do ...
Mine grow in a west facing window that gets direct sun mid to late afternoon, with a bit of dappled sun later - it hasn't harmed the mottled leaved, tho I take care during extremely hot afternoons. They grow alongside some Dens.
Both types get watered the same - just a bit before media is completely dry.
I only have a very few Paphs, however - I'm sure there are other members with much more experience with them.
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12-08-2015, 09:07 PM
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There are at least 5 distinct cultural groups within genus Paphiopedilum, but even within each group there is a range of needs, and an exception to just about every rule. So no, you absolutely can not say all Paphs with plain green leaves need one set of conditions, and all Paphs with mottled leaves need another set. But if temperature is your primary concern there is a broad middle ground where the majority of Paphs can do well, and it may all depend on what you mean by warm and cool.
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12-08-2015, 10:09 PM
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I got one each of mottled leaf Onyx, green leaf Pinocchio and strap leaf rothschildianum seedlings this summer. They grew well next to an aquarium with CFL lights. In later October I moved them into the sunroom, side by side. The got maybe an hour of low-angle morning sun, dappled through the plants in front of them, then full shade. The mottled leaf one quickly developed burns on most of the leaves. I moved them to full shade. It and its buddies are still growing fine, but now the mottled leaves have light brown papery spots.
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12-10-2015, 12:11 AM
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If you could give each plant individual conditions, then:
Maudiae types would like it 5 deg F warmer than bulldogs, and slightly deeper shade.
Insigne (species) would like same light level as bulldogs, but 5 deg F cooler.
However, they will all be fine together. Maudiae types do not need cool nites for bud initiation, but it won't hurt them.
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