Any Henryanum Growers Here?

[NYCorchidman]

No, too much hassle. plus, I don't want to give others something that are considered "bad".

Terri- I'm sure you know, but it all comes back down to luck of finding "that plant" which grows AND flowers with ease.

By the way, I read henry fares well with cool winter (into 50s or lower), then again, some people try "chilling" on some parvis to get them to flower but report that they fail. I'm not sure if they watered them correctly. anyways, I cannot provide anything lower than 65 (at best).

Also, my insigne, which is supposed to have cold winter, has been growing and blooming well so far.
Although I'm sure it will go off like crazy if it could take some "real" winter it needs to thrive.

[JMNYC]

Originally Posted by NYCorchidman

No, too much hassle. plus, I don't want to give others something that are considered "bad".

Like so many things, I guess both hassle and bad are subjective, yes?

While clearly challenging, bet someone might be able to fathom exactly what a henry might need to be less recalcitrant. I mean, short of moving half way across the planet.

Just thought it was worth asking. Especially since so much of what I grow has been discarded by others.

Edit: found this interesting thread re when temps drop significantly, lower the amount of watering.

Species Specific Forum : Growing Orchids and Hybrids • View topic - Paphiopedilum henryanum

For some, not possible, I know.

[Suzanne17]

Originally Posted by NYCorchidman

Terri- One from Taiwan with Bear something and one without a specific cultivar were the ones better than others, but this "other" group also had that Taiwanese Bear cultivar. lol

I agree, whoever said henrys are easy, it probably needs revision. It might do better with cooling??

How did you grow yours in the winter??

My other hybrids with henry are also slow/seasonal growers. I'm thinking of pitching them.
Cute, but not that pretty and slightly frustrating. I think I have enough reasons now. lol


Jeremy- I feel your pain. Lowii is just gigantic and robinianums I've seen are about as bad. lol

Er...lowii is gigantic?

cringes about order arriving tomorrow and impulsivity

[jeremyinsf]

Originally Posted by Suzanne17

Er...lowii is gigantic?

cringes about order arriving tomorrow and impulsivity

They don't have to be large to bloom. You are getting one in a 4" pot? "gigantic" is a matter of perspective. Terri and I both grow indoors, under lights. And yes, multi-florals take a lot more room than say, the Paph helenae that we also grow.

For perspective, here is a photo of my "multi-floral shelf". On the right is my Paph Dollgoldi (my largest plant - 23" across) and then two Robinianum, two St. Swithin, two lowii, and one parishii. Yes, it's full and the plants are crowded, but they do fine. Actually in person it doesn't look as crowded - only a few leaves are touching. Then again, that's probably my orchid mind playing tricks on me! Always room for one more, right?

(one of the Robinianum was burned a bit under different conditions, that's what that spot is)

[Suzanne17]

Yes, it's a large seedling in a 4" pot...Paphiopedilum lowii $25.00 Plants First Rays Orchids

excitement! I love the long petals.

[NYCorchidman]

Henrys actually do not need that much of cold as mentioned in that discussion forum. They might as well be able to withstand quite a bit of cold, but it is not necessary at all.
I say about 60-50 is more than enough and is what they actually go through in nature. It is also possible that different local population go through different winter temperature, but my understanding is that the above given temperature is the about what they experience in winter with occasional further drop in temperature.

I'm sure my and others' henryanums might fare better when given a cooler winter, but even then, individual plants show difference in vigor.

Suzanne- Paph lowii I see in bloom were mostly about 25'' minimum and more, from one end to the other of the whole plant, and that was too big for me.

Jeremy- How long have you had your Dollgoldi and how's that one doing in the blooming department?
Plus, what do you use for your light setup?
I want to use light set up as I'm tired of plants leaning toward the sun. lol

[jeremyinsf]

Originally Posted by NYCorchidman

Suzanne- Paph lowii I see in bloom were mostly about 25'' minimum and more, from one end to the other of the whole plant, and that was too big for me.

Jeremy- How long have you had your Dollgoldi and how's that one doing in the blooming department?
Plus, what do you use for your light setup?
I want to use light set up as I'm tired of plants leaning toward the sun. lol

Suzanne - don't let him scare you away! They bloom much, much smaller than that, and mine are not that large. And both bloomed for me this year under my care for a full cycle. In fact the larger one had four flowers. However - do your homework. Multi's often take more light, and fertilizer, among other things, than a typical run of the mill paph noid Maud hybrid. I don't know what your setup or experience is, so, I'm just putting that out there.

NYC - They are T5 lights. All mine are. I have three racks, for the plants that grow under lights. That particular shelf uses two lamps (more was too much light) and is also near a window (right above the wall in the back, you just can't see it in the pic) that allows some natural light in and also helps with the temperature swing. The Dollgoldi had three spikes (six flowers) on it last year. I bought it that way. I haven't had it a full cycle so I can't tell you what it will do. It's not "time" yet, either. It wouldn't surprise me if it didn't bloom this year, but did next year. It was one of those "I'm never going to see a plant like this ever again, so I can't pass it up" things. It has I think 40 or so growths on it, maybe more, so something is bound to spike eventually :-) Ironically, it seems the parishii might actually be the tied for MVP (Most Valuable Plant) right now. I can't believe what people are paying for them on ebay.

[Suzanne17]

I don't use lights- paphs are in an east window with the phals. I'm newish...fertilizer is MSU quarter strength weekly (once a month none) with KelpMax once a month. Lowii came yesterday- single growth so far. In quarantine for now. I'm still learning my way...we shall see. I hope next year I can bloom it.




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[jeremyinsf]

Originally Posted by Suzanne17

I don't use lights- paphs are in an east window with the phals. I'm newish...fertilizer is MSU quarter strength weekly (once a month none) with KelpMax once a month. Lowii came yesterday- single growth so far. In quarantine for now. I'm still learning my way...we shall see. I hope next year I can bloom it.

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People grow lowii in a window all the time. Take good care of it and give it time, I'm sure you will be rewarded!

[quiltergal]

I'm using T5HOs as well. Here are a couple shots of my grow space. Jeremy passed me up a long time ago in terms of number of plants and racks. He's acquiring, I'm getting rid of. I will say I was shocked in a very good way at the difference lights made in my orchids. It was probably the best thing I ever did.