Yet another delenatii dunkel

[NYCorchidman]

Yeah, I noticed how small and neat delenatii and armeniacum were at the shows.

then hybrids aren't too bad, but much bigger unfortunately.

Never heard of alba Magic Lantern. interesting!

I'm just beginning to develop tast for parvi. I used to really not like them at all.

The only reason I got my Armeni Whiate was because it was cheap and in bud. and leaves were quite interesting.

well, it is also super bloomer so far, and I quite enjoy the flower as well, now making two per spike.

I'm still repelled by some, namely Micranthum.

I would love to have Malipoense, but I read about negative stuff there as well. hence leaning toward getting something similar like Norito Hasegawa.

I've been wanting to buy some Lyneigh Koopowitz, but hesitant as I've seen some ugly ones. oh, well...
and Delrosi, about which I also heard some stuff about, but the flowers look amazing to me!

[eggshells]

The problem with roth x parvi crosses is that they are reluctant to bloom. But there are some clones out there that are easy to bloom. It's interesting that you dont like micranthum as that is one of the my favourite parvi species. I like big flowers on small plants.

As it applies to all other things. I suggest to try them out before passing judgement. You will be surprised that what other people might find harder might be easier for you. So if you really like it, try it. Otherwise you will never know.

Good luck and I am sure you will do fine.

[The Orchid Boy]

The reason I didn't get a Paph. sanderianum sooner was because I heard they were hard to grow (and they were expensive!). But then I found a nice big one for a great price and decided to try growing one... and it was easy, just slow. I've found out the same thing with other species. I've also found some "easy" orchids that are hard for me.

[NYCorchidman]

Originally Posted by eggshells

The problem with roth x parvi crosses is that they are reluctant to bloom. But there are some clones out there that are easy to bloom. It's interesting that you dont like micranthum as that is one of the my favourite parvi species. I like big flowers on small plants.

As it applies to all other things. I suggest to try them out before passing judgement. You will be surprised that what other people might find harder might be easier for you. So if you really like it, try it. Otherwise you will never know.

Good luck and I am sure you will do fine.

I found at least one that is supposedly an "easy" bloomer. Delrosi "clockwork". so named because it blooms every year like a clock would. I'm thinking of buying a division of that one. I also like its flowers.

Well, Micranthum reminds me of some kind of a bird at a certain angel, but it's mainly the unproportionately huge pouch and the dark lines on the petals. I don't know, overall it just looks too different for me. lol

The flower size was really big for the plant though. The price was quite something as well. at least the one I saw at a show.

Speaking of roth and parvi cross, I have also been dreaming of getting a nice division of Dollgoldi.
hmmm

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Originally Posted by The Orchid Boy

The reason I didn't get a Paph. sanderianum sooner was because I heard they were hard to grow (and they were expensive!). But then I found a nice big one for a great price and decided to try growing one... and it was easy, just slow. I've found out the same thing with other species. I've also found some "easy" orchids that are hard for me.

Yeah, easy or difficult is very relative term and many times, it is almost useless I don't pay much attention.

It has to give reasons as to what makes them easy or not easy.

The stuff I read about certain parvi species is mainly the winter temperature range that is lower than what I can provide.

plus, the long time it takes to develop the spike, which can abort in the process.

Well, if they all grew like my Armeni White, which grows and flower in my apartment with no special aid or efforts, I would buy them all.

[quiltergal]

You also might like Gloria Nagle. It has nice color and interesting markings.

[The Mutant]

My delenatii vinicolor is waving to yours! I'm so glad I got myself one of these, cause the foliage is absolutely gorgeous. The flower is okay, which is a good thing coming from me considering how I feel about parvis, or toilets as I call them.

Thanks dear enabler!

Originally Posted by NYCorchidman

I found at least one that is supposedly an "easy" bloomer. Delrosi "clockwork". so named because it blooms every year like a clock would. I'm thinking of buying a division of that one. I also like its flowers.

Well, Micranthum reminds me of some kind of a bird at a certain angel, but it's mainly the unproportionately huge pouch and the dark lines on the petals. I don't know, overall it just looks too different for me. lol

The flower size was really big for the plant though. The price was quite something as well. at least the one I saw at a show.

Speaking of roth and parvi cross, I have also been dreaming of getting a nice division of Dollgoldi.
hmmm

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Yeah, easy or difficult is very relative term and many times, it is almost useless I don't pay much attention.

It has to give reasons as to what makes them easy or not easy.

The stuff I read about certain parvi species is mainly the winter temperature range that is lower than what I can provide.

plus, the long time it takes to develop the spike, which can abort in the process.

Well, if they all grew like my Armeni White, which grows and flower in my apartment with no special aid or efforts, I would buy them all.

I've gotten myself a Delrosi which probably won't ever bloom, but I've got one! It's a roth crossed with a vinicolor delenatii, and the flowers are even more gorgeous than on an ordinary Delrosi (too bad I'll never get to experience that)!

Micranthum to me looks totally like a toilet bowl... Or maybe a urinal... Which is why I don't want one, I can't have an orchid which makes me want to take a leak all the time, right?


Dollgoldi is a gorgeous hybrid, and I want one of those too. I'll save up some money so I can buy one next year when Sam comes to Europe.

I think some parvis might bloom even if you can't provide low enough temperatures. Take my purpuratum for example (not a parvi, but anyway) which apparently wants a dryer and colder period (down to 11 C or 51.8 F), but I keep it together with the rest of the gang and they all receive the same temperature (that I can live with) and amount of water all year around. It bloomed last year after I got it home, it has grown a new fan, which is going to bloom soonish. I know armeniacum seems to be tricky, but I don't really know if all of the other parvis are as finicky as that one.

[Discus]

Originally Posted by The Mutant

which is a good thing coming from me considering how I feel about parvis, or toilets as I call them.

I have the exact same problem with these plants :/

[NYCorchidman]

Mutant

How long have you had your Delrosi?
Given your description, I think you have a division of a good one. then it should be almost a flowering size, isn't it?

I don't know what makes them difficult to bloom, but one thing I read is that they grow so slow that it can take 10 years from seedling to reach a maturity to flower for the first time.

I found a website where a nice division is sold at what I consider a reasonable price. so I might get one but I want to learn about the culture to make sure I can deal with it.

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Originally Posted by Discus

I have the exact same problem with these plants :/

Toilets!

and overall flower shape never really appealed to me.

Only a few appeal to me now, a little bit.

Delrosi and Dollgoldi are exceptions. I like them a lot!

[The Orchid Boy]

I still don't see the "toilets" in the parvis... I think you're all just imagining stuff! I love the parvis and their overinflated pouches. I'm working on collecting every one of them and every variety of each one. Almost won hangianum seedlings off of eBay... One of my favorite hybrids is Paph. Sacajawea's Slippers (delenatii x sanderianum). I'm working on remaking that cross so I can eventually make Paph. (Sacajawea's Slippers x sanderianum). It's proving very hard to get one to take the others pollen. I want a pink, long petaled paph, similar to Phrag. Sendenii and Phrag. China Dragon.

[The Mutant]

Originally Posted by NYCorchidman

Mutant

How long have you had your Delrosi?
Given your description, I think you have a division of a good one. then it should be almost a flowering size, isn't it?

I don't know what makes them difficult to bloom, but one thing I read is that they grow so slow that it can take 10 years from seedling to reach a maturity to flower for the first time.

I found a website where a nice division is sold at what I consider a reasonable price. so I might get one but I want to learn about the culture to make sure I can deal with it.

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Toilets!

and overall flower shape never really appealed to me.

Only a few appeal to me now, a little bit.

Delrosi and Dollgoldi are exceptions. I like them a lot!

Not long at all, on Sunday it will be a week actually.
I was sooo pleased when I saw the Delrosi, that it almost overshadowed the other three Paphs I had ordered together with it. It has three growths, the oldest most probably tried but failed to bloom, the second oldest is maybe going to bloom (it's doing something and I thought I felt a swelling, keep you fingers crossed). The root system was awesome and it's now the biggest orchid I have.

I've had some knowledgeable Paph people explain to me why they can be so hard to get to bloom; if the pod parent (I think it was) is a roth, then it's going to be hard to bloom, and if it's a delenatii, it's going to be easier to bloom. Mine has roth as pod parent I think, which unfortunately puts it in the "difficult" category.

Nowadays they line breed the Paphs so roths and sandies (and probably Delrosi) reach blooming size faster than before. I think it takes about 5-7 years now for a roth which might not sound much, but for us Paph owners it's great.

If you like Delrosi and Dollgoldi, maybe Woluwense could be something of interest?

Here's a link to my Delrosi, oh and check out the delenatii vinicolor, it's gorgeous: My Paph Collection

Originally Posted by The Orchid Boy

I still don't see the "toilets" in the parvis... I think you're all just imagining stuff! I love the parvis and their overinflated pouches. I'm working on collecting every one of them and every variety of each one. Almost won hangianum seedlings off of eBay... One of my favorite hybrids is Paph. Sacajawea's Slippers (delenatii x sanderianum). I'm working on remaking that cross so I can eventually make Paph. (Sacajawea's Slippers x sanderianum). It's proving very hard to get one to take the others pollen. I want a pink, long petaled paph, similar to Phrag. Sendenii and Phrag. China Dragon.

It's all in the eyes of the beholder.

Paph. Sacajawea's Slippers looks okay, but I think I prefer the roth x parvi crosses since, if you're lucky, the petals get that "roth stance", which makes the flowers more appealing in my eyes.

On the other hand, I think it's great that you're so interested in Paphs, and already thinking about breeding them.