Neither one will win any awards, but they looked good together on the bench. The venustum is rather small and the dorsal on the spicerianum tilts forward too far, but I like them anyway. The one thing the spicerianum has going for it, though, is the fact that it grows like a cabbage and throws new growths all over the place. One of the parents was spicerianum 'Candor' HCC/AOS.