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12-06-2012, 02:25 PM
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[QUOTE=tucker85;536098 I always think to myself 'why the hell didn't I just leave it alone'.[/QUOTE]
Because WE CANT!
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12-07-2012, 07:29 AM
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I dont want to ruin your day any further but your spicerianum doesn't look like a true species either.
I think it's probably a hybrid with perhaps insigne so it forms Paph Leeanum.
The flower itself lacks a few features which are very distint for spicerianum. Strong purple strip in the center of the dorsal and the odd shaped staminoid shield to name two.
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12-07-2012, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by MarcS
I dont want to ruin your day any further but your spicerianum doesn't look like a true species either.
I think it's probably a hybrid with perhaps insigne so it forms Paph Leeanum.
The flower itself lacks a few features which are very distint for spicerianum. Strong purple strip in the center of the dorsal and the odd shaped staminoid shield to name two.
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My original post mentions the plant is a cross between spicerianum and stone lovely.
There is a purple strip running along the center of dorsals, it is a dotted line rather than a complete straight line.
I personally don't like species and do not collect any of them either for that reason.
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12-07-2012, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by NYCorchidman
My original post mentions the plant is a cross between spicerianum and stone lovely.
There is a purple strip running along the center of dorsals, it is a dotted line rather than a complete straight line.
I personally don't like species and do not collect any of them either for that reason.
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Sorry I missread your post.
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12-07-2012, 04:42 PM
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It's ok.
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12-09-2012, 12:15 PM
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Well, I haven't managed to break any spikes off yet (but since I wrote this, I'll probably stumble and fall on top of my entire Paph collection ), but I've had several set backs with my Paphs lately, with yellowing leaves and bud blasting. I think I might have figured out what was wrong (humidity issue) and hopefully I've saved the bud on my venustum with my second humidifier.
Luckily, you have several other Paphs in bloom, although I can understand that you got mad at yourself for breaking the spike.
Interesting that you don't like species, most of my collection consists of species.
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12-10-2012, 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by The Mutant
Well, I haven't managed to break any spikes off yet (but since I wrote this, I'll probably stumble and fall on top of my entire Paph collection ), but I've had several set backs with my Paphs lately, with yellowing leaves and bud blasting. I think I might have figured out what was wrong (humidity issue) and hopefully I've saved the bud on my venustum with my second humidifier.
Luckily, you have several other Paphs in bloom, although I can understand that you got mad at yourself for breaking the spike.
Interesting that you don't like species, most of my collection consists of species.
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I never really liked paphs at first. then when I saw the white green maudiae at one show here, I just bought one along with another yellow hybrid ( Hsinying Yosemite I think is the name).
Now I have so many, but I find them very easy and rewarding. long lasting blooms are plus.
One reason I avoid species is the culture requirement. I read that species are more sensitive to the growing environment, requiring almost exact duplication of their native habitat.
The fact that you had issue due to low humidity, I probably kill them with such low humidity in my aparment most of the time and even worse during winter time.
I don't run extra stuff for my plants except for fans on super hot summer days.
So far, all my hybrid paphs have been growing nicely. well, not to their potential, but good enough to flower on time for me.
By the way, I really want to buy some Armeniacum. small plant size and the great yellow really appeal to me. Do you grow one or do you know if they are tough or easy to grow??
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12-10-2012, 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Brenda Aarts
Because WE CANT!
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That is so true!
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12-10-2012, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by NYCorchidman
I never really liked paphs at first. then when I saw the white green maudiae at one show here, I just bought one along with another yellow hybrid ( Hsinying Yosemite I think is the name).
Now I have so many, but I find them very easy and rewarding. long lasting blooms are plus.
One reason I avoid species is the culture requirement. I read that species are more sensitive to the growing environment, requiring almost exact duplication of their native habitat.
The fact that you had issue due to low humidity, I probably kill them with such low humidity in my aparment most of the time and even worse during winter time.
I don't run extra stuff for my plants except for fans on super hot summer days.
So far, all my hybrid paphs have been growing nicely. well, not to their potential, but good enough to flower on time for me.
By the way, I really want to buy some Armeniacum. small plant size and the great yellow really appeal to me. Do you grow one or do you know if they are tough or easy to grow??
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Haha! Neither did I! But then they started to capture my eye with their elegance (I only saw them in pictures though). When the opportunity to purchase a cerveranum (a variant of appletonianum) presented itself, I took it, and that Paph started the Paph-invasion of my apartment.
Yeah, I have two humidifiers on 24/7 to keep the humidity levels up (otherwise they would be like 30% now since it's winter and all), but considering I almost managed to murder my Maudiae, I don't know if species are finickier, it depends on what you've got I suppose.
Haha! You avoid species because they are finicky, and you want to buy an armeniacum?! I know that there's a thread dedicated to the difficulties of growing armeniacum on Slippertalk, so I think it's quite sufficient to say that they are not the easiest species. But on the other hand, what is easy for one is difficult for someone else, so why not try one? It seems that they are extremely slow growers so I should try and get a plant with more than one fan at least, otherwise the wait might get to be too much.
I understand your interest in this species though. I don't like parvis normally, their pouches make me think of toilette bowls, or urinals. But the armeniacum does hade such a lovely yellow, that I too am actually considering buying one. We'll see what I decide to do (I have a bunch of roths already, so another slow-grower won't stop me).
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12-10-2012, 02:26 PM
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I was going to get an armeniacum but then I started reading up on them and they seem much harder to grow than a sanderianum. Micranthum and armeniacum are probably the two hardest paphs to grow. They want it quite cold at night, especially in winter, bright light, fast drying media, higher humidity, and they can have really long or really short rhizomes and I've heard they do best in a basket of some sort. Even the expert paphs growers have trouble with these.
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