Paph delenatii problem - Page 2 - Orchid Board

Jeremy · #11 08-25-2007, 11:31 PM

I think that I may have to settle for the new Vietnamese clones without fragrance, if my French delenatii doesn't flower this winter. If that is the case then maybe I will get the fragrant less delenatii with good color and a fragrant delenatii hybrid because fragrance is one aspect of an orchid I find really important. However I am keeping my hopes up and my fingers crossed that my delenatii will grow and flower.

Jeremy · #12 08-26-2007, 09:48 PM

I contacted the vendor from which I bought the delenatii from and they say that it is a typical and common growth habit of delenatii to grow slowly or grow intermittenly

but they said it should flower this winter

slipperfreak · #13 08-26-2007, 10:35 PM

I'm glad you got this figured out, Jeremy.

Delenatii is a great species, worth the wait for flowers. Be sure to try some of the hybrids I mentioned though - I'm sure you'll like them!

Jeremy · #14 08-26-2007, 10:45 PM

I think I will try magic lantern. It is very appealing. Like micranthum, it has very large pouch. What is the general culture for magic lantern, since micranthum grows in cool conditions, and micranthum may have passed on the necessity for cool winter temperatures? Can this grow in intermediate to warm conditions?

slipperfreak · #15 08-27-2007, 01:56 PM

Yes it can. You'll find that Magic lantern is easier to grow than delenatii, and MUCH easier than micranthum. It's quite adaptable. You can grow it pretty much like a standard Maudiae type, maybe with a little more light, up to 1500 fc.

Forgot to mention, the cooler you grow Magic Lantern in, in general the better the color. Try to find ones with micranthum listed as the first parent; they will have better form and color.

Jeremy · #16 08-29-2007, 10:39 PM

I can't find any growers in my area with Micranthum listed as the first. However the ones with delenatii as the seed parent (first parent) are still very nice. I am not sure whether magic lanterns are mature in 2.5-3.5 inch pots. Are they mature in that size? I forgot, I think that my delenatii is starting to grow again? There is a leaf that appears slightly bigger. Either that or I am just imagining things? Lets hope I am not imagining

slipperfreak · #17 08-30-2007, 02:05 AM

A Magic Lantern in a 3.5" pot is more than likely ready to flower. 2.5" is iffy. As for your delenatii, it could be growing, it might not be. However, the peak delenatii flowering season is coming up in a couple months... I'm starting to think about cooling mine off a little to induce flowering. If you have any growths reaching maturity you may want to do this around late September/early October (I know, I start thinking about these things early!) for a December/January bloom. Of course, the peak season extends into May and they can flower at any time... But you've already flowered yours so I'm sure you know about this. Anyway, I talk too much! Good luck with your Magic Lantern!

Jeremy · #18 08-30-2007, 10:28 PM

My growing area starts to cool off around mid September (depends how cool it is outside at night). I calculated my averages for every month of the year using data I collected from my max and min thermometer ( I am such a nerd with these things) and night average for September is 66F and for October and November 64F and December 61F and December is the coolest average however on those bone chilling winter nights (which I am sure you have experienced in Canada) the night temperature drops to 55F-58F. Even though there aren't any mature growths on my delenatii, I still have to cool the growing area since there are other plants that depend on the seasonal change (ie. Dend Parishii). However I remember that my delenatii grew even when it got cold. So maybe it will continue growing.

Jeremy · #19 08-30-2007, 11:11 PM

When I go to the vendor this weekend to get a magic lantern, I may also get a new delenatii because in the picture on their website the delenatii had more coloring on it the petals were also pink. But the picture couldn't be exactly like the plant. So I am probably going to ask the person who actually propagates them. Is coloring on the petals a sign of that it is a newly reintroduced species?

slipperfreak · #20 08-31-2007, 10:45 PM

Oh yes, we experience cold up here!

Pink on delenatii petals? Sounds like either vietnamense or Ho Chi Minh (which is delenatii x vietnamense). I have never seen a delenatii with pink petals before, maybe a tiny little blush at the base... Perhaps he put the wrong picture there? Or maybe it is just a cool form? What website is it?