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01-21-2022, 02:54 PM
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Thefish1337 said "I still don't really understand these things- none of the new growths have set roots and are vampiring the main growth...".
I'm not sure what you mean by that, can you explain? If you mean that the new growths are coming out with their bases above the potting mix and therefore don't put out new roots, this can happen with some crosses. It certainly presents problems at repot time.
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01-21-2022, 05:18 PM
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The new base is attached by a root or rhizome or whatever you call it, and there’s no roots other than that “umbilical cord.”
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01-21-2022, 05:23 PM
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One thing to note about Paphs... slow growth follows a pattern. While the actual rate of the production of new growth varies (a Maudiae type will grow faster than a multifloral...) overall pattern is to put out a new growth, then over the next year or so the new growth will produce roots. Then once well rooted, it may bloom in another year or so. So to get a reliably-blooming Paph, you need to have multiple growths (at various stages). Then there will more often be a growth ready to bloom. But be patient with those rootless new growths... they'll likely produce roots eventually. So orchids teach patience, Paphs teach saintly patience.
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01-21-2022, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Paphluvr
Thefish1337 said "I still don't really understand these things- none of the new growths have set roots and are vampiring the main growth...".
I'm not sure what you mean by that, can you explain? If you mean that the new growths are coming out with their bases above the potting mix and therefore don't put out new roots, this can happen with some crosses. It certainly presents problems at repot time.
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None of them had roots when I repotted, and all of the bases are in the media. That's what I mean by vampiric. Believe it or not, the flowering growth is the last one to form and it had a random burst of energy and became bigger than the other two. That's what I mean when I say I don't understand this plant.
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01-22-2022, 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Roberta
One thing to note about Paphs... slow growth follows a pattern. While the actual rate of the production of new growth varies (a Maudiae type will grow faster than a multifloral...) overall pattern is to put out a new growth, then over the next year or so the new growth will produce roots. Then once well rooted, it may bloom in another year or so. So to get a reliably-blooming Paph, you need to have multiple growths (at various stages). Then there will more often be a growth ready to bloom. But be patient with those rootless new growths... they'll likely produce roots eventually. So orchids teach patience, Paphs teach saintly patience.
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That describes my Maudae perfectly. I just put a lot of sphag around the base of the babies and ended up with three spikes this year. Unfortunately they were opening just I left for Singapore, so my house guest gets to enjoy them while I am away. Sigh.
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01-24-2022, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by thefish1337
Okay, good to know. I'm a total noob to Paphiopedilums compared to Cattleya and I have no idea what I'm doing- I've been growing this one with basically the same care as my Cattleya for the past 2 years. I just saw the spike going out a bit horizontal and got worried.
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When you see a bud coming up at this angle, notice that it is the growth that is leaning - the bud is coming straight out of the growth.
The way to straighten this is simple. With your fingers, push the growth back towards vertical, and insert a short (6") stake right along the side of the growth. The growth, and the bud, are now upright.
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01-24-2022, 07:05 PM
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Good point Kim. I need to go look at one of mine now that’s a little wonky. Bet that’s the problem. I actually repotted while it was starting to spike, so probably didn’t pay good enough attention.
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01-24-2022, 09:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fairorchids
When you see a bud coming up at this angle, notice that it is the growth that is leaning - the bud is coming straight out of the growth.
The way to straighten this is simple. With your fingers, push the growth back towards vertical, and insert a short (6") stake right along the side of the growth. The growth, and the bud, are now upright.
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really good point! the answer was right in front of my eyes!
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