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Old 04-15-2007, 12:14 AM
Djarum Black Djarum Black is offline
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I can't believe the bull%^&# sellers on ebay get away with when it comes to their auctions of orchids..

I mean misrepresentation of an item can mean a buyer can return the item and request/receive a refund [through some Ebay process I can't think of now].
It's also possible that they just don't know any better. There are many ebay sellers who are only selling for the money, not the love of orchids. If they buy a bunch of seedlings to resell because they hear they are popular that might really be all they know. I know of a few sellers just like that in fact. At the most I'd say blame them for not knowing the item they are selling, but I don't know if it is always malicious.
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Old 04-15-2007, 12:53 AM
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I agree....and then I don't end up refunding because of my losses from shipping and handling.

My advice for auctions is to get a picture of the plant before you bid.
Good advice! Do you sell alot on Ebay?
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Old 04-15-2007, 01:40 AM
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Good advice! Do you sell alot on Ebay?
No but I bought a some disapointing plants....
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Old 04-15-2007, 02:59 AM
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No but I bought a some disapointing plants....
I hate disapointing plants I got an intergeneric Wilsonaria something or other from a nursery once which was uber floppy and weak the moment I got it and it never did anything until I popped it into one of my fishtank terarriums.

It grew a tiny little shoot which promptly rotted and now the whole thing is dead
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Old 04-15-2007, 03:00 AM
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It's also possible that they just don't know any better. There are many ebay sellers who are only selling for the money, not the love of orchids. If they buy a bunch of seedlings to resell because they hear they are popular that might really be all they know. I know of a few sellers just like that in fact. At the most I'd say blame them for not knowing the item they are selling, but I don't know if it is always malicious.
Yes I guess that happens too, I suppose you can't expect every seller to be truly informed about the product they're selling especially when it's all just about making the sale
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Old 04-15-2007, 11:07 AM
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I suppose you can't expect every seller to be truly informed about the product they're selling
That is a POOR excuse. With the internet, it only takes a couple of minutes to find out information.

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Someone like you or me informs them and there is no change to the description on the auction. I have done that many times and only a very small percentage will make the effort to change it or at least expain why they cannot.
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Old 04-15-2007, 11:46 AM
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That is a POOR excuse. With the internet, it only takes a couple of minutes to find out information.

OR

Someone like you or me informs them and there is no change to the description on the auction. I have done that many times and only a very small percentage will make the effort to change it or at least expain why they cannot.
Yes it is a poor excuse but some people [not me] don't care, which of course sucks!
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Old 04-15-2007, 12:59 PM
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That is a POOR excuse. With the internet, it only takes a couple of minutes to find out information.

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Someone like you or me informs them and there is no change to the description on the auction. I have done that many times and only a very small percentage will make the effort to change it or at least expain why they cannot.
I agree that insufficient knowledge for an item is a poor excuse of misinformation. It's not the case of 'ignorance to knowledge', but rather 'ignorance to lack of knowledge'. They should at least express the latter...

I know quite a bit about this seller, which I will not discuss. I will say that this seller is somewhat knowledgeable in the orchids he sells. There may also be things in question that he sells...

The auction for the Paph. sanderianum shows a flower, deemed representative of a Paph. sanderianum flower. I will assume it is his own picture in this instance. The flower is NOT one of Paph. sanderianum, but rather a hybrid that perhaps has Paph. philippinense for parentage, and maybe Paph. sanderianum in it. The floral bracts of a true Paph. sanderianum are either green with black striations, or purple with black striations. In either case, they are usually quite large.

The plant offered for auction looks questionable. The best way to distinguish a Paph. sanderianum seedling and plant from other species is the long, strap leaves with internal veining (webbing). The seedling could be a true Paph. sanderianum, but I would definitely question it because of the "flower example" and the overall look of the plant.

The plant is also nowhere near blooming size. There are still quite a few years until one would see an inflorescence.

I know I won't be bidding on this questionable plant...

-Pat
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Old 04-15-2007, 05:18 PM
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id like to hello before i start my name is david i only grow paphs,and i totally agree that is no sanderianum(from the photos)i have a phillipenensexstonei that is very simular to that flower
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Old 04-16-2007, 12:54 AM
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An day away from the ending of the auction.
As evil as it is...I am interested in how many people were fooled and how some buyers are that ignorant and how much it will sell for....
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