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Old 12-22-2013, 11:54 PM
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kentaki, thank you for your imput, but what do you suggest I call it , I don't really understand your point. Cym. goeringii and virens are synonym to my knowledge...
The name I use is the one given to me by the seller (Ten Shin Gardens, based in Taiwan), I don't pretend to know if it is exact, and I thank you if you can give me an exact name.
The seller actually doesn't give a Japanese name when he sells plants, only the name Tian Cao, I asked him if he had a kanji name to give me when I bought the plant and this is what he told me.
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Old 12-23-2013, 02:04 PM
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It's a beauty and good growing. I'm enjoying the Asian cymbidiums more and more as I learn grow them.

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Old 12-25-2013, 11:03 AM
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kentaki, thank you for your imput, but what do you suggest I call it , I don't really understand your point.
My point was that it was probably not the real name. It is probably truncated and pronounced in Taiwanese, but not in Japanese.

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Cym. goeringii and virens are synonym to my knowledge...
Yes, but there are differences. The most notable and easy one is the presence of pleasant fragrance.

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The name I use is the one given to me by the seller (Ten Shin Gardens, based in Taiwan)
I knew this too well. I posted somewhere here, but I purchased one Den. hybrid named Den. Cool Beans from them last October. I wasn't quite sure about the name, so I checked the RHS registration. There is no such hybrid. I also purchased a variegated Den. anosmum. While I was looking for a name for the NOID hybrid, I stumbled across a variegated Den. Nestor, which looked identical to the one I purchased. Maybe these are two isolated incidents, but it happened at the same time. The owner was absent because he was in hospital.

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I don't pretend to know if it is exact, and I thank you if you can give me an exact name.
See my previous response. There does not seem such a cultivar with the name. However, there are cultivars that have 天草 as a part of their name, so I am *guessing* that it is not a full name. 帝冠 (Tei Kan) may be a possibility, and the pronunciation is somewhat similar. But there are some differences:
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The seller actually doesn't give a Japanese name when he sells plants, only the name Tian Cao, I asked him if he had a kanji name to give me when I bought the plant and this is what he told me.
So why is he selling a Japanese cultivar with Taiwanese/Chinese pronunciation? That would complicate the matter even more. Don't get me wrong because Japanese do it all the time in Japan. But if you are selling plants outside your country, you should honor the original name or pronunciation just to avoid problems like this. That was I wrote "I just roll my eyes."

As for Japanese pronunciation, I already wrote, so I won't go there. I just state that there are two ways to pronounce Chinese characters in Japanese, Tian Cao is definitely not the one I am familiar with.
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Really pretty!
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Hi this is Fabulous! I wonder if it is available? I am in maryland.
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Really nice looking, Thanks for sharing
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Hi this is Fabulous! I wonder if it is available? I am in maryland.
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There is an eBay seller located in California (Fremont I believe) who has some great goeringii varieties.
Otherwise, look at Tenshin Gardens website for their show schedule, I'm sure they are coming to the US soon and you can preorder some.
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Old 03-12-2014, 11:47 AM
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Wow... Thats a nice one for sure, really grabbed my attention. The name uncertainty is slightly distracting, but that one I would even accept as a NoId!
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I'm sure they are coming to the US soon and you can preorder some.
Just remember to take a virus testing kit, as they seem to be quite common in the asian nurseries!
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