I would love to live in a cooler but not freezing climate like California and grow these outside. sigh..
I can see what you say about the flower presentation of the red one.
but both plants have such clean leaves!

I see all too many NOID cymbidiums in the winter but almost all have "nasty" leaves and some even have flowers with watery or brown spots. I never buy them.
How often do you divide your cymbidiums? how tall are they? the green one? I'm in love with that plant and its flowers
