eulophia guineensis

[craigo12]

thinking of getting this one
iheared eulophia graminea is a weed over in america
is eulophia guineesis as weedy as this one
and is it s easy to grow from seed.
thanks
craigo12

[Zoi2]

Sorry I can't help with the eulophia graminea, but am giving you a bump.
Joann

[King_of_orchid_growing:)]

Unless you have experience in sowing orchid seeds in-vitro, I would highly recommend buying an adult BS plant.

[edub9]

Want to trade, I have eulophia graminea. Hit me up at ericwalton9edub9@gmail.com

Originally Posted by craigo12

thinking of getting this one
iheared eulophia graminea is a weed over in america
is eulophia guineesis as weedy as this one
and is it s easy to grow from seed.
thanks
craigo12

[Cym Ladye]

The genus Eulophia, which also constitutes the monogeneric alliance Eulophia, includes 210 species of orchids. It was first described by John Lindley in 1821. The name "Eulophia" was derived from the Greek words "eu" (well) and "lophos" (plume), referring to the crested ridges of the labellum (lip) in most species. This genus is abbreviated Eupha in horticultural trade.

Another plant not in the Cymbidium Alliance. Perhaps that is why edub9 has not gotten more responses.

CL

[lambelkip]

Originally Posted by Cym Ladye

Another plant not in the Cymbidium Alliance. Perhaps that is why edub9 has not gotten more responses.

Eulophia is usually considered part of the cymbidium alliance, although hybrids between Eulophia and Cymbidium are rare.

Eulophia guineensis might be weedy in tropical areas, but would probably not be a problem in areas with regular frost in winter.

[Cym Ladye]

Scientific classification
Kingdom: Plantae
(unranked): Angiosperms
(unranked): Monocots
Order: Asparagales
Family: Orchidaceae
Subfamily: Epidendroideae
Tribe: Cymbidieae
Subtribe: Cyrtopodiinae
Alliance: Eulophia
Genus: Eulophia

There will always be "lumpers and splitters". I tend to go with what the Scientific classification currently is,
and whatever it may be "thought to be", it is not in the Cymbidium Alliance, which is the name of this section of the OB.

The purpose of the sectioning off the Scientific classification into smaller units is to put more like plants with each other. Therefore the use of subtribes and further classification to Alliance and finally the genus.

Lumping all genera in the Cymbidieae tribe, even though many do not grow under the same conditions, do not breed easily or at all together with the genus Cymbidium, and have certain distinctively different characteristics is "lumping". You lump and I will split and we can agree to disagree.

Cym Ladye

[samarak]

E. graminea and a couple of others (alta) are said to be weeds in Florida. I grow several Eulophias and related Cymbidieae/Eulophinae but don't have either of those nor guineensis. But most are pretty easy and tolerant growers for me.

[samarak]

Cym Ladye, may I ask what source you quoted there? I know different people go different ways, and all are entitled to their opinion, but I've never seen a classification that put Eulophia in the Cyrtopodiinae subtribe (usually Eulophiinae). I'm curious as to whether there is some new information somewhere. Thanks.

[Cym Ladye]

Originally Posted by samarak

Cym Ladye, may I ask what source you quoted there? I know different people go different ways, and all are entitled to their opinion, but I've never seen a classification that put Eulophia in the Cyrtopodiinae subtribe (usually Eulophiinae). I'm curious as to whether there is some new information somewhere. Thanks.

Cultivated Orchid Species by Bechtel, Cribb and Launert third edition published in 1992. I think we are all well aware of the "talking heads" moving genera around from tribe to tribe, mostly to the confusion of us judges and growers. This may be one of them. If there is a more recent, verifiable reference to another classification for this species, perhaps someone will post it here.

In regard to the seemingly non Cymbidium genera apparently included in the fine print of this section of the OB, I went strictly with the words "CYMBIDIUM ALLLIANCE" taking it literally for the scientific classification. The OB founders obviously took a more general stance. The problem is that most of these non Cymbidium genera/species just do not breed with or have the same growing conditions as Cymbidiums.

CL