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12-03-2011, 11:45 AM
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Cymbidium siamense synonym?
Is anyone familiar with Cymbidium siamense? I can't seem to find any information on this species anywhere, which makes me think that it may be a synonym for some other species. If anyone knows what its proper name is (at least according to Kew or some other authority), I would appreciate your feedback. Thanks!
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12-03-2011, 12:03 PM
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Under the Cynbidium alliance in OrchidWiz there is a Geodorum (Gdm.) siamense. It's from Myanmar, Thailand, Vietnam, but not much other info on it. Commonly called the Thai Geodorum and Geodorum means having terrestrial habit. Hope that helps.
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12-03-2011, 12:28 PM
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from IOSPE;
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Synonyms Cymbidium ensifolium subsp. haematodes (Lindl.) Du Puy & P.J.Cribb ex Govaerts 1999; Cymbidium ensifolium var. haematodes (Lindl.) Trimen 1885; *Cymbidium haematodes Lindl. 1833; Cymbidium siamense Rolfe ex Downie 1925; Cymbidium sinense var. haematodes (Lindl.) Z.J.Liu & S.C.Chen 2006; Cymbidium sundaicum Schltr. 1919;
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The accepted name is Cymbidium haematodes.
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12-03-2011, 12:50 PM
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Per Kew, siamense is a synonym for Cym. haematodes.
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12-04-2011, 12:24 AM
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I think the correct name for Cym siamanense is
Cym ensafolium sub var hematodes. From Siam (Thailand)hence Cym siamense. Note that this is the
more heat tollerant form of ensifolium.
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12-04-2011, 12:37 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by orchids3
I think the correct name for Cym siamanense is
Cym ensafolium sub var hematodes. From Siam (Thailand)hence Cym siamense. Note that this is the
more heat tollerant form of ensifolium.
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Kew accepts Cym. haematodes the correct name for both of the above.
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12-04-2011, 07:33 AM
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Thank you, everyone. I'll correct the tag to identify it as Cym. haematodes.
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12-05-2011, 02:05 PM
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and it is ensifolium, not ensafolium....
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12-10-2011, 01:57 PM
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Toxonomists can wrangle over this but I would label mine Cym ensifolium ssp haematodes. Would also take the book "Heat Tolerant Cymbidiums" by Kaenratana (2009) into consideration.
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12-10-2011, 02:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by orchids3
Toxonomists can wrangle over this but I would label mine Cym ensifolium ssp haematodes. Would also take the book "Heat Tolerant Cymbidiums" by Kaenratana (2009) into consideration.
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Orchids3,
I am not certain if haematodes is legitimately an ssp or a syn. and as you know, there are other ssp of sinense. Taxonomists - lumpers or splitters - you gotta love 'em.
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