Cymbidium Starbright (pumilum x Lyonth) ??

[rodrigo]

I went to an Orchid show in the small town of Coronado yesterday, and I could not resist getting a nice 2 spike blooming Cymbidium with the following label:

Cymbidium Starbright (pumilum x Lyonth)

I have searched the Internet to confirm that it is indeed what it says it is... got some results for some "Capella" variety.

But I'm still doubtful and in need on a second opinion.
Can anybody confirm that the ID is correct?

Here's how the baby looks:


It has a light pleasant fragrance.

Thanks for any light shed on this hybrid.

Regards to all!

Rodrigo

[stonedragonfarms]

It's a nice looking flower, but pumilum should give diminished flower size, increased flower count and semi-pendant spikes (or so I would conjecture); I can not find anything bearing the moniker 'Lyonth' in the RHS database, so this is either an unregistered hybrid name (it happens) or something that has not yet hit the system (which I would sort of doubt). First glance at this flower made me think of either a [I]insigne[I] hybrid or something with tracyanum somewhere in the background; the overall form of the flower reminds me of insigne, but the striping on the petals reminds me of a few of the tracyanum hybrids that I have in my collection. Hopefully CL will chime in with her thoughts, but I vote you dispose of the tag and just enjoy the flowers (and perhaps call the vendor and inquire where this came from...)
Adam

[silken]

OrchidWiz shows this hybrid and says it is a cross between Lyonth and pumilim as your tag indicates. There are two photos of it and it has the big spotted mouth and similar petals and same overall shape. But the photos show it to be much more pink and the throats white whereas on my computer at least, your petals look more peach or salmon coloured and the throat quite yellow. But different cultural conditions could alter colour a bit I suppose. also, many hybrids come out looking different from their siblings. I think it what the tag says. enjoy! It is very nice looking.

[silken]

Cymbidium Starbright 'Capella', AM/AOS at Santa Barbara Orchid Estate

Cuboimages - Cymbidium Starbright "Capella"

Here are several links to pictures of Starbright. They are both Starbright 'Capella" and the 2nd one does show more of a salmon rather than pink colour.

[silken]

Still looking and OrchidWiz shows the parents of Cym. Lyoth to be Cym. insigne and Cym. Ceres. Your plant seems to have a lot of insigne in it. The same shape of overall flower and individual petals and mouth.

[stonedragonfarms]

It's interesting that the RHS site has no info on this cross and Orchidwiz does, thanks for the info Silken. Is there an annotation as to who made this cross?

[Bobfharris]

I'd say based on what I see above that this has tracyanum in it, and Starbright is really not what this is. The pumilum would be more dominant in the offspring were this to be true. So my guess here is that it is either a cross of Starbright and some tracyanum or in fact it is totally mislabeled.. IMHO

[stonedragonfarms]

Ah, I see now, the original thread lists the cross as Lyonth x pumilum...not Lyoth...which is there...the dreaded spelling errors...

[silken]

Stonedragonfarms, yes, OrchidWiz shows it spelled Lyoth and the originator of the cross was Greenoaks in 1964! An oldie!

[Cym Ladye]

I agree with those posters who feel the label is incorrect. Although some feel the species pumilum gives pendant racemes, most of the early "Miniatures" which were derived from using it as a parent to diminish the size of the standards, were upright. Starbright was one of them. They had midsized flowers in the 2"+/- range, high flower count and good color.

I suspect there is little if any Cym. pumilum in the flower shown. Parishii and tracyanum perhaps and who knows what else.

I would throw away the label, mark it as a hyb. ign (hybrid unknown) with your own clonal name in single quotes, and enjoy it for what it is.

CL