Login
User Name
Password   


Registration is FREE. Click to become a member of OrchidBoard community
(You're NOT logged in)

menu menu

Sponsor
Donate Now
and become
Forum Supporter.


Many perks!
<...more...>


Sponsor
 

Google


Fauna Top Sites
Register Members Today's Posts
LOG IN/REGISTER TO CLOSE THIS ADVERTISEMENT
Go Back   Orchid Board - Most Complete Orchid Forum on the web ! > >
Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 12-04-2023, 02:15 PM
alecStewart1 alecStewart1 is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Sep 2023
Location: Texas
Posts: 219
Male
Default Cymbidium sinense 'Golden Da Mao' 墨兰 ‘达摩中透’

My first Asian Cymbidium from Mystery Garden Store on Etsy. This plant came in phenomenal condition, no bad roots, no wilting leaves and it had been in the box almost 2 days because I was out of town this weekend and didn't arrive until last night.

Beautiful variegation that reminds me of the more expensive shima 縞 (stripe) Neofinetia/Vanda falcata varieties. The flower I believe is a red one, but I'll have to wait for spring to confirm.

Given I'm in North Texas, this guy has to grow indoors at the edge of the light from the grow lights from my cabinet. They don't handle the extremes of the temperate environment here.

For the Mandarin name, the best I can find for `墨兰` is "ink orchid."
I think `兰` refers to Cymbidiums, as you see it in all the Asian Cymbidum species online. That or it just refers to orchids.

`达摩中透` is something like "Dharma Path/Medium", but `中透` is like "penetrate" or "seep through" and `达摩`is "Dharma" or the concept of virtue, moral order or duties in Buddhism/Hinduism/Jainism/Sihkism. So the variety name probably refers to the yellow variegation of the leaves "seeping through" or making a path through the green. I can't find what "Da Mao" is though, although for all I know that refers to Dharma.

Andrew at Mystery Garden Store might actually know better than just me searching the internet and using DeepL to translate, though.

Can't wait to see this guy flower!

EDIT: Funny enough, whenver you put the character `墨` in DeepL, you get the translation:

"corporal punishment consisting of tattooing characters on the victim's forehead"

But the alternatives are just

"ink stick."

Also the character `中` apparently refers to "medium" or "middle", so it's entirely possible the variety name is "golden medium/middle/path" which makes a lot more sense.
Attached Thumbnails
-img20231204074816-jpg   -img20231204074745-jpg   -img20231204074802-jpg   -img20231204074752-jpg  

Last edited by alecStewart1; 12-04-2023 at 03:22 PM.. Reason: funny stuff
Reply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 4 Likes
Likes Roberta, ebrookmi, Jmoney, Blueszz liked this post
  #2  
Old 12-04-2023, 08:32 PM
estación seca's Avatar
estación seca estación seca is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Jun 2015
Zone: 9b
Location: Phoenix AZ - Lower Sonoran Desert
Posts: 18,534
Male
Default

The box with slash character is also the name for China, the Middle Kingdom. The Dao or Tao is the balanced path through life, staying in the middle rather than veering to extremes.
__________________
May the bridges I've burned light my way.

Weather forecast for my neighborhood
Reply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 1 Likes
Likes Clawhammer liked this post
  #3  
Old 12-05-2023, 05:28 PM
plantxart plantxart is offline
Member
 

Join Date: Apr 2022
Zone: 9a
Location: California
Age: 83
Posts: 46
Default

Cymbidium sinense Da Mo Zhong Tou 达摩中透

Da Mo - buddhist monk also known as Daruma in Japan. Most often they would name dwarf or compact varieties Damo or Daruma after the Daruma doll

Zhong Tou describes the variegation which roughly translates to saturated middle or inner variegation

Ten Shin Gardens has a list of terms for different leaf and flower forms if you'd like to know more
Cymbidium Terms - Ten Shin Gardens Co., Ltd.
Reply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 1 Likes
Likes alecStewart1 liked this post
  #4  
Old 12-05-2023, 05:52 PM
alecStewart1 alecStewart1 is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Sep 2023
Location: Texas
Posts: 219
Male
Default

Ah I thought I something about Da Mo/Mao being a buddhist monk.

Thanks, plantxart! I've wanted to fine something like this for Asian Cymbidiums. Very much appreciated!
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 12-11-2023, 12:10 AM
Jinh Jinh is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Oct 2020
Zone: 8b
Location: DFW, Texas
Posts: 112
Female
Default

I’ve been eye balling these variegated Cymbidiums from Mystery Garden Store for awhile.Beautiful plant!
Reply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 1 Likes
Likes alecStewart1 liked this post
  #6  
Old 12-11-2023, 08:17 AM
Jmoney's Avatar
Jmoney Jmoney is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: May 2021
Posts: 383
Default

love that variegation!
Reply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 1 Likes
Likes alecStewart1 liked this post
  #7  
Old 03-24-2024, 12:46 PM
Asian Cymbidium Empress Asian Cymbidium Empress is offline
Member
 

Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Toronto
Posts: 73
Male
Default

墨兰 ‘达摩中透’

To clarify what this is, here it is:

墨兰 = Scientific name is Cymbidium sinense. In Chinese, it has 2 names,

a) 报岁兰 = New Year's Orchid because it blooms around Chinese New Year so you know how old you are.

b)墨兰 = Ink orchid.

When you see these 2 sets of Chinese names = Cymbidium sinense.

Now why is it Call 达摩? Damo?
達磨/達摩: He is a Buddhist monk, there are many statues of him with legs crossed. In Japan, there are these little red dolls called Daruma that is short and round. Because Cymbidium sinense Damo type is short and round, it looks like the Japanese Daruma doll. (you have to use your imagination).

中透= this just means centre stripe variegation. Green on the edge of the leaves and the centre of the leaves are not green (white, cream, or yellow). There are Neofinetia falcata with the same types of variegation. In Japanese, this type of variegation is called Naka suke. One example is Neofinetia falcata "Akebono".

There is no mystery about this, very straight translation.
I hope this helps.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-25-2024, 12:03 PM
alecStewart1 alecStewart1 is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Sep 2023
Location: Texas
Posts: 219
Male
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Asian Cymbidium Empress View Post
In Japan, there are these little red dolls called Daruma that is short and round. Because Cymbidium sinense Damo type is short and round, it looks like the Japanese Daruma doll. (you have to use your imagination).
I'm finding there's a lot of names for varieties in Asia that you have to use your imagination for.

For instance I've seen quite a few Japanese variety plants that are named after sumo terms, but not even ones that are, say, the ranks of sumo. I did find one or two that were named after sumo wrestlers, though.

Of course I guess you start running out of names to describe the colors and shapes of the plants leaves and flowers after awhile that you have to come up with something different.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Asian Cymbidium Empress View Post
There is no mystery about this, very straight translation.
I hope this helps
Thank you, it helps a lot! If I made it seem like a mystery it's because, well, I can't read Mandarin.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
cymbidium, dharma, flower, guy, refers


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Cymbidium sinense 'Da Mo Zhong Tou' papayj Cymbidium Alliance 1 11-26-2019 01:02 PM
Cymbidium sinense 'Jin Hua Shan' papayj Cymbidium Alliance 5 11-05-2016 01:07 AM
Cymbidium Golden Elf cabnc Cymbidium Alliance 10 11-30-2010 01:31 PM
Cymbidium sinense cv.He Zhi Hua‘鹤之华' s1214215 Cymbidium Alliance 16 04-27-2010 07:44 PM

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:23 AM.

© 2007 OrchidBoard.com
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.37 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Clubs vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.