Identification Cymbidium with apricot scent

[sbrofio]

Hi everybody. Today I got a new Cymbidium. The commercial name Is Totorri (made by Orchidiva). It has a wonderful apricot scent and orange color.
Do you know the fight id or genealogy?

[estación seca]

Your best chance would be contacting the grower.

[sbrofio]

Hi ES! Yes, I've written Yesterday on Facebook, commenting a pic of this plant (from 2022 or 2021)

[Roberta]

Since it's not a registered hybrid, the only way you're gong to find out (if they will tell you) is, indeed, from the grower. I can make a little guess about part of its background, though... both the bloom season (earlier than most Cyms) and fragrant, I strongly suspect that Cym. ensifoium is in the mix (likely from one of its hybrids like Cym Golden Elf or another generation further on,Cym. Chen's Ruby which is Golden elf x iridiodes) It would be most interesting to find out if I was right about any of those conjectures... If you find out, let us know!

[sbrofio]

Hi Roberta! I've seen the same Cym flowered in mid September, but It was too expensive. So I'm not sure about the flowering period.

[Roberta]

The ones that I am guessing are in its ancestry can, indeed, bloom in September or even earlier, and sometimes grow more spikes as late as November. Where most Cymbidiums don't even think about blooming until December or January (I am starting see spikes just getting started on that group) for me the early ones are blooming now. The one that I have that is closest to yours is http://orchidcentral.org/Images/Cymb...9;s%20Ruby.jpg, blooming like crazy now, and the fragrance is a bit apricot-ish with a hint of citrus. I'm guessing that yours has another generation of breeding compared to mine, to get the rounder, fuller form but still have the early blooming and fragrance. The early-blooming Cyms don't need the fall cool-down to bloom that the more standard ones do (since clearly, they start their spikes in the heat of summer)

[sbrofio]

Today in the break I'll.twke some Better pics of mine, for comparison. Waiting for the answer from the vendor/hybridizer

[Roberta]

When a hybrid is registered with the Royal Horticultural Society in the UK (the international registrar) the ancestry of the hybrid must be given. So for those "named" hybrids, once can look up their pedigree. But there are plenty of hybridizers/vendors marketing to the general public (rather than the hobbyist trade) who don't register their hybrids - give them "trade names". Two reasons... registration does have a small cost (which can become large if someone has many hybrids), and also, they may prefer to keep the ancestry of a hybrid - especially if successful and desirable, a secret.

My guess is that you won't get the details. It is still a really lovely orchid, fragrance is a bonus. So enjoy! Unless you wanted to breed with it, or show it for an "official" award, the pedigree or lack thereof makes no difference at all.

[DirtyCoconuts]

it has a relation to Chen's Ruby, that is all i know for sure- it looks too much like it not to.

I have two different ones but neight smells


i like the flower

[Roberta]

Originally Posted by DirtyCoconuts

it has a relation to Chen's Ruby, that is all i know for sure- it looks too much like it not to.

I have two different ones but neight smells


i like the flower

DC, interesting that you're not getting fragrance from your Chen's Ruby... maybe a "time of day" thing. Mine is strongest during the warm part of the day.