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03-12-2008, 08:02 PM
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Exceptionally well formed, this clone also has dark coloration compared to the ordinary of the species. Selective breeding inside this species has been producing some outstanding flowers of Cattleya labiata. In this case, the parents used were two also very good plants, the clones ‘Michelle’ and ‘Batatais’. Some plants of their progeny, like this one, have surpassed the parents both in form and color. My plant held a seedpod these past months, so the flowers are not showing their full potential.
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I just love labiatas. This one is just wonderful and has a very fine form and color, love it
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03-12-2008, 08:13 PM
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Another great one Mauro...Thanks Jim.
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03-12-2008, 11:08 PM
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I can see how some could mistake them both for hybrids.They are stunning! Mauro, did you self it, or cross with something else?
Kim
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Kim, I crossed it with another exceptional labiata that came out of a well succeeded cross between the clones 'Helena' and 'Nomura'. At the time I made the cross, Mr. Longhin, (Frederico mentions above), an old friend of mine, had 'Batatais' in flower, but I didn't want a back cross.
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03-12-2008, 11:33 PM
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Mauro,
Your plant is gorgeous but....are you sure it's not a hybrid?!? By the way, yesterday night I went to "Cattleya labiata Night", promoted by SBO in the "Babenberg Club", and this labiata (pic) reached the 2nd place as a 'type'; half of the audience thought it was a hybrid, the other half was sure! The plant's owner was not present (Mr. Longhin or Longuin- I don't know the correct spell). Mr Alarcon (from Praia Grande) did not agree with us, and he believed it was even a labiata, highly selected through generations. For me it's amazing to see a "crossing petals" in a pure labiata!' It looks like a trianae!
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Yes, Frederico, I am sure it is not hybrid. I can understand the hesitation, but people who say that maybe don't know exactly what has been done inside this species and for sure don't know the genetic potential of the parents used here. Gone are the days labiatas (type!) were thin flowers.
Mr. Longhin is a dear old friend of mine. He lives and grows his orchids near me. I know him since 1982. He is now in his 80's and has been growing orchids for more than 60 years. With no favor, he is a living encyclopedia of labiatas and purpuratas. I dare to say that there's nobody else here in Brazil that knows Cattleya labiata better than he. If he says it is labiata, it is. If he says it is not, belive him, it is not. I have a deep and reverent respect for him and his knowledge of orchids, especially on this species, and because he has been my mentor since I knew him more than 25 years ago. And also am profoundly grateful of having the pleasure and the priviledge of meeting him every Tuesdays at our orchid society meetings.
BTW, his plant is a sister of mine.
One more thing, Frederico, and I know you know this, every time the flower is exceptional they start saying it is a hybrid... is this true or not? The same person that today says a certain plant is a hybrid, tomorrow gets a piece and then, my miracle, start saying it is species...
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03-13-2008, 08:00 AM
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Simply stunning!
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03-13-2008, 11:17 AM
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Hi Mauro!
Thanks for the feedback! I'll mail Mr Alarcon and tell him about; he was the only person that believed Mr Longhin's labiata was a pure plant! I hope I could meet Mr Longhin some day, I have too much to learn about labiatas!
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03-13-2008, 11:49 AM
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Very nice tribute to your friend and mentor Mr. Longhin, Mauro
After seeing your collection, I'd say you've been a wonderful student...I'm sure he's proud to know you
...so are your OB friends
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03-13-2008, 03:12 PM
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"I'm sure he's proud to know you
...so are your OB friends"
I certainly am.
Kim
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03-13-2008, 11:48 PM
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Susanne, Kim, Thank you so much for the kind words. Please, be sure that it is a huge joy having met friends like you and all the other OB friends I have been in touch. I have been learning a lot reading your posts, opinions, researches...Again, thank you very much!
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07-01-2008, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Rosim_in_BR
Yes, Frederico, I am sure it is not hybrid. I can understand the hesitation, but people who say that maybe don't know exactly what has been done inside this species and for sure don't know the genetic potential of the parents used here. Gone are the days labiatas (type!) were thin flowers.
Mr. Longhin is a dear old friend of mine. He lives and grows his orchids near me. I know him since 1982. He is now in his 80's and has been growing orchids for more than 60 years. With no favor, he is a living encyclopedia of labiatas and purpuratas. I dare to say that there's nobody else here in Brazil that knows Cattleya labiata better than he. If he says it is labiata, it is. If he says it is not, belive him, it is not. I have a deep and reverent respect for him and his knowledge of orchids, especially on this species, and because he has been my mentor since I knew him more than 25 years ago. And also am profoundly grateful of having the pleasure and the priviledge of meeting him every Tuesdays at our orchid society meetings.
BTW, his plant is a sister of mine.
One more thing, Frederico, and I know you know this, every time the flower is exceptional they start saying it is a hybrid... is this true or not? The same person that today says a certain plant is a hybrid, tomorrow gets a piece and then, my miracle, start saying it is species...
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Mauro, you are blessed
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