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12-04-2016, 09:51 AM
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Cattleya deckeri
The species is seldom gron here in my country. I got the plant years ago when it was NBS. This is the first time it blooms.
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12-04-2016, 08:36 PM
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Nice!
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12-05-2016, 07:20 AM
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This plant really taught you patience with a reward!
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12-05-2016, 01:58 PM
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Congratulations!
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12-05-2016, 02:45 PM
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Nice! This species is now a synonym of Gur. skinneri. Cattleya deckeri Klotzsch |
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12-06-2016, 02:07 PM
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Very nice colours!
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12-08-2016, 12:41 AM
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Thanks for the information. |
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12-27-2016, 04:07 AM
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Although that is the case that deckeri is a synonym for skinneri, I want to give reasons why it really isn't the same plant:
1. Skinneris are double the size of deckeris in the plant size and flowers.
2. They are from different countries, skinneri from Mexico/Costa Rica and deckeri from Panama/Venezuela.
3. Deckeris auto pollinate (cleistogamy), but not skinneris
4. Skinneris bloom in spring and deckeris in fall...
These are MAJOR differences and NOT the same plant...
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12-27-2016, 10:36 AM
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Possibly a better explanation of this species is here: Kew
Synonymous with Guarianthe x laelioides (aurantica x skinneri). This accounts for smaller size and cleistogamy. When you have a cleistogamous population of such a hybrid you're probably looking at a very inbred origin, which also can account for otherwise unexplained difference from parent species. How such a population gets established in a particular place may be hard to explain, but when it might be from just one seed anything can happen.
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12-27-2016, 02:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Leslie
Although that is the case that deckeri is a synonym for skinneri, I want to give reasons why it really isn't the same plant:
1. Skinneris are double the size of deckeris in the plant size and flowers.
2. They are from different countries, skinneri from Mexico/Costa Rica and deckeri from Panama/Venezuela.
3. Deckeris auto pollinate (cleistogamy), but not skinneris
4. Skinneris bloom in spring and deckeris in fall...
These are MAJOR differences and NOT the same plant...
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I would argue only #4 is a valid reason to dispute Kew. The others are simply morphological variability addressed by PaphMadMan below.
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Possibly a better explanation of this species is here: Kew
Synonymous with Guarianthe x laelioides (aurantica x skinneri). This accounts for smaller size and cleistogamy. When you have a cleistogamous population of such a hybrid you're probably looking at a very inbred origin, which also can account for otherwise unexplained difference from parent species. How such a population gets established in a particular place may be hard to explain, but when it might be from just one seed anything can happen. |
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