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Old 01-09-2014, 12:41 PM
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Enjoyed your post. I find it interesting how the Prosthecha bloom during a different period from plants grown in the Northern Hemisphere. If yours bloom during your summer then ours should bloom during our winter but I don't find that to be the case.
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Enjoyed your post. I find it interesting how the Prosthecha bloom during a different period from plants grown in the Northern Hemisphere. If yours bloom during your summer then ours should bloom during our winter but I don't find that to be the case.
I was chatting with a fellow here who imports on a large scale just recently. He told me the northern hemisphere imports take a year or two to adjust to the seasons once they cross the equator, and frequently do weird things like flower completely out of season or go dormant for for up to year whilst they figure out what has happened.

He also noted that the further a species is from the equator naturally - the more 'difficulty' they have in adjusting to the move. Equatorial species tend to just go right on doing their thing and just put on an extra flower display to pull them in line with local seasons.
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Well done!!

Those sepals/petals remind me a LOT of Encyclia lancifolia.

Will be fun to see what the others look like!!
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Old 01-11-2014, 05:54 PM
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Well done!!

Those sepals/petals remind me a LOT of Encyclia lancifolia.

Will be fun to see what the others look like!!
One of the siblings has just started opening in the last 24 hours, and I rather suspect there may be some lancifolia genes involved here. Either as a direct hybrid, or at least a grandparent.

The newest one to bloom has longer sepals/petals like a cochleata should, but also has creamy-yellow sepals/petal in place of the traditional mint green, and the hoods on these are even lighter than the hoods on the first flowering plant.

There's still one more sibling yet to blossom, will be interesting to see what it looks like. The two that have flowered so far came from the same flask, but to look at them they could be different species/hybrids altogether. Genetic variation in orchids never ceases to amaze me
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Quite right!! I look forward the day when I have the opportunity to "play" with flask seedlings. Until then, it's nice to have the opportunity to enjoy vicarious cultivation moments like this!!
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Lovely!
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One of the siblings has just started opening in the last 24 hours, and I rather suspect there may be some lancifolia genes involved here. Either as a direct hybrid, or at least a grandparent.

The newest one to bloom has longer sepals/petals like a cochleata should, but also has creamy-yellow sepals/petal in place of the traditional mint green, and the hoods on these are even lighter than the hoods on the first flowering plant.

There's still one more sibling yet to blossom, will be interesting to see what it looks like. The two that have flowered so far came from the same flask, but to look at them they could be different species/hybrids altogether. Genetic variation in orchids never ceases to amaze me
That sounds like a very logical explanation. I remember reading something once about plants requiring a period of adjustment.

I recently received some cacti that I purchased from a grower in Hungary. They were all plants that typically bloom in the spring. After a month now in Florida conditions, they are all coming into bud.
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The mystery continues.

About the only thing I can say with any certainty is that these are not Prosthechea cochleata - not species at any rate.

I purchased all three of these guys fresh out of the flask, a flask labelled 'Encyclia cochleata', all three have grown side by side in identical conditions, heat, watering, feeding etc.

They are identical, (to my eye), in terms of foliage, pBulbs, root systems and growth habits. The only difference so far is the inflorescence.


This was the first of the trio to bloom, as well as the original subject of this thread. Hoods are rich, dark plum. Sepals and petals are unmarked and much more yellow than its siblings. Fragrant all day, pleasantly so in the morning - becoming sour as the day warms up.

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This was number two to bloom. Has the smallest flowers of the three. Petals/sepals are paler than its siblings, also shorter and wider. Slight speckling at the base of some of the sepals/petals. Hoods are quite pale, background colour very pale with maroon veining. Fragrant all day long, not as strong as its siblings, but more pleasant - like a very mild radiata.

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This was the last of the odd trio to bloom, still in the process of opening buds in fact. Has the longest and thinnest sepals/petals of the three. Largest blossoms of all three. Darker and greener than the others. Hood is pale and veining is stronger than the previous plant, but still much less than the first. Interesting maroon speckles all along the petals/sepals. Has a hot, spicy fragrance in the morning only, fades to nothing by about 10am.

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With the first two plants I assumed a cochleata x radiata/lancifolia mix, but with the speckles and darker colours and larger blooms on the third plant I'm stumped. The fact that all three have very different fragrance times and scents further confuses me.

I think I'll just change all their tags to 'Prosthechea soup'
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Old 01-13-2014, 11:44 AM
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Really pretty. My thought was I'm not sure it's cochleata, like others have said that is usually greener, with longer thinner sepals. I'm no expert though and for all I know it could have that variation.
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They are all very nice but I like #3 the best. The speckling on the petals is great looking. It adds so much more character to the look.
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